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Offline gyrene81

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Re: Problems with last patch.
« Reply #15 on: August 17, 2009, 10:48:40 PM »
Ok cool...at least you're not using the "freebie" or "home user" versions of stuff...as for the firewall thing, there have been repeated posts recommending the firewall be disabled to "avoid problems" with AH...I hope you're using a Linksys router with the Linux based firmware on it...everything else is...

If I lived closer to you I could show you some things about your defenses but if it helps you sleep at night...stick with it...at least you're trying...which more than most people even have a concept of trying.


Your recent crash could be a fluke...anything is possible...I've had it happen 3 times with no rhyme or reason on my "good system" the old one has been trouble free...strangely enough.

I just found a much newer driver for that realtek audio card...version A.4.06 dated 10/01/2008...Emachines may have stopped supporting it but Realtek didn't.

This "legacy" driver for your video card should get you up to date on that:
ATI Catalyst™ Display Driver
But then, you never know.

And last but not least...did you try uninstalling your old install of AH from C:\Program Files to and doing a fresh install of the latest version at C:\HiTech Creations\Aces High??
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Offline Gary26

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Re: Problems with last patch.
« Reply #16 on: August 17, 2009, 11:15:00 PM »
Yes, i uninstalled and reinstalled, but didnt play much after that to put it through the ringers. As far as crash, my computer crashes alot. Most of the time either while the AV is running a scan or after I start up and the AV is loading. I am looking into diffrent AV programs, but not sure. PC Associates has been recommended as being good for gamers
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Offline gyrene81

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Re: Problems with last patch.
« Reply #17 on: August 17, 2009, 11:44:10 PM »
Yes, i uninstalled and reinstalled, but didnt play much after that to put it through the ringers. As far as crash, my computer crashes alot. Most of the time either while the AV is running a scan or after I start up and the AV is loading. I am looking into diffrent AV programs, but not sure. PC Associates has been recommended as being good for gamers
Gary, if your system is crashing while your AV is running a scan or loading...uninstall it...stay away from PC Cillin, McAffee, Symantec...try Avast or Avira for low system overhead and protection that is better than the 3 big corporate programs...

You might want to do some further diagnostics as well on your system...with frequent crashes it's not unusual for the file system to get corrupted which will mean a complete system reload if it happens to the wrong part of your operating system.

Since you're not a tech geek...I don't recommend doing this stuff without someone who at least understands the lingo assisting you in person.
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Offline 2Slow

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Re: Problems with last patch.
« Reply #18 on: August 18, 2009, 12:38:58 AM »
Ok cool...at least you're not using the "freebie" or "home user" versions of stuff...as for the firewall thing, there have been repeated posts recommending the firewall be disabled to "avoid problems" with AH...I hope you're using a Linksys router with the Linux based firmware on it...everything else is...

If I lived closer to you I could show you some things about your defenses but if it helps you sleep at night...stick with it...at least you're trying...which more than most people even have a concept of trying.


Your recent crash could be a fluke...anything is possible...I've had it happen 3 times with no rhyme or reason on my "good system" the old one has been trouble free...strangely enough.

I just found a much newer driver for that realtek audio card...version A.4.06 dated 10/01/2008...Emachines may have stopped supporting it but Realtek didn't.

This "legacy" driver for your video card should get you up to date on that:
ATI Catalyst™ Display Driver
But then, you never know.

And last but not least...did you try uninstalling your old install of AH from C:\Program Files to and doing a fresh install of the latest version at C:\HiTech Creations\Aces High??

I saw the driver for the Realtek.  I also saw the warning from them that there may be issues when used with MB onboard chipsets.

I also saw the "legacy" drivers but they are not for an ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro AGP.

I did do a fresh AH install from the start.

Way back when highspeed cable first became available to me all I had was the "modem" and my system.  Thus I went with ZoneAlarm.  I have always used a retail version of it.

Linksys(Cisco) is the only way to go IMHO.  I started with a single port firewall and I am now using a 5 port router firewall.

I have seen the items regarding firewall interference with AH.  It has never been an issue for me.

I am sure you could show me some things that would have me shutting down my systems when the are not in active use.  I know it is out there.  Whether one is involved with physical or electronic security, it can always be overcome.  I have just taken the precautions to prevent one from "sneaking in or out."  Log reviews and other measures are a good practice.

I have 15 years of professional experience as a Systems/Network Engineer/Administrator.
« Last Edit: August 18, 2009, 12:42:02 AM by 2Slow »
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Offline gyrene81

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Re: Problems with last patch.
« Reply #19 on: August 18, 2009, 09:52:58 AM »
Well 2slow, don't know what to tell you...I happen to have that Realtek audio driver running on my old HP system with WinXP SP3 (AC97 audio chip) and it's working fine regardless of the warnings (couldn't recommend it without trying it)...as for the video card driver I used the interactive support search function on AMD's website and after specifying that exact video card...there are 2 updated legacy driver packages available...9.3.1 from 7/5/2009 and 9.8 from 8/16/2009...the list of video cards that show up under those drivers are the latest card series to be "added" to the legacy driver list supported by those drivers.






One of the most valuable things I've learned over the past 18 years in various I.T. roles...just when you think you know what you're doing, you don't.

Good luck.
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Offline Gary26

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Re: Problems with last patch.
« Reply #20 on: August 18, 2009, 04:59:10 PM »
Ok lets try this.
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Time of this report: 8/18/2009, 14:44:38
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  DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
      Display Tab 1: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
          Music Tab: No problems found.
          Input Tab: No problems found.
        Network Tab: No problems found.

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DirectDraw:  0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectPlay:  0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow:  0/6 (retail)

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      DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
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     DDraw Status: Enabled
       D3D Status: Enabled
       AGP Status: Enabled
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 D3D7 Test Result: Not run
 D3D8 Test Result: Not run
 D3D9 Test Result: Not run

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 Default Sound Playback: Yes
 Default Voice Playback: Yes
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        Manufacturer ID: 1
             Product ID: 100
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         Driver Version: 5.12.0001.0514 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
            WHQL Logo'd: Yes
          Date and Size: 6/15/2007 11:47:26, 1127936 bytes
            Other Files:
        Driver Provider: CREATIVE
         HW Accel Level: Full
              Cap Flags: 0xF5F
    Min/Max Sample Rate: 4000, 96000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 64, 63
 Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 64, 63
              HW Memory: 0
       Voice Management: Yes
 EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: Yes, Yes
   I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
               Registry: OK
      Sound Test Result: Not run

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Sound Capture Devices
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            Description: SB Live! 24-bit
  Default Sound Capture: Yes
  Default Voice Capture: Yes
            Driver Name: P17.sys
         Driver Version: 5.12.0001.0514 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
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Offline AAIbyteu

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Re: Problems with last patch.
« Reply #21 on: August 18, 2009, 05:11:35 PM »
I am having the same problem.  
Have set all 3 video setting the same.  Have no other apps or antivirus running while playing.

DXDIAG:
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System Information
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Time of this report: 8/18/2009, 16:52:04
       Machine name: HOME-EB0AE14363
   Operating System: Windows XP Professional x64 Edition (5.2, Build 3790) Service Pack 2 (3790.srv03_sp2_gdr.090319-1204)
           Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
       System Model: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
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          Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 3.20GHz (2 CPUs), ~3.2GHz
             Memory: 3264MB RAM
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DX Setup Parameters: Not found
     DxDiag Version: 5.03.3790.3959 32bit Unicode

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  DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
      Display Tab 1: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
          Music Tab: No problems found.
          Input Tab: No problems found.
        Network Tab: No problems found.

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DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectPlay:  0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow:  0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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        Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 9400 GT
     Manufacturer: NVIDIA
        Chip type: GeForce 9400 GT
         DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
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   Display Memory: 1024.0 MB
     Current Mode: 1280 x 960 (32 bit) (70Hz)
          Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
  Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
      Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
   Driver Version: 6.14.0011.8048 (English)
      DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
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      WHQL Logo'd: n/a
  WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
              VDD: n/a
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        Vendor ID: 0x10DE
        Device ID: 0x0641
        SubSys ID: 0x00000000
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      Revision ID: 0x00A1
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                   {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
                   {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalSt retch
                   {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
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         Registry: OK
     DDraw Status: Enabled
       D3D Status: Enabled
       AGP Status: Enabled
DDraw Test Result: Not run
 D3D7 Test Result: Not run
 D3D8 Test Result: Not run
 D3D9 Test Result: Not run

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Sound Devices
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            Description: Realtek HD Audio output
 Default Sound Playback: Yes
 Default Voice Playback: Yes
            Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0662&SUBSYS_18493662&REV_1001
        Manufacturer ID: 1
             Product ID: 100
                   Type: WDM
            Driver Name: RTKHDA64.SYS
         Driver Version: 5.10.0000.5519 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
            WHQL Logo'd: n/a
          Date and Size: 11/27/2007 07:07:00, 4632064 bytes
            Other Files:
        Driver Provider: Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
         HW Accel Level: Full
              Cap Flags: 0x0
    Min/Max Sample Rate: 0, 0
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 0, 0
 Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
              HW Memory: 0
       Voice Management: No
 EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: Yes, Yes
   I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: Yes, Yes
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
               Registry: OK
      Sound Test Result: Not run

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Sound Capture Devices
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            Description: Realtek HD Audio Input
  Default Sound Capture: Yes
  Default Voice Capture: Yes
            Driver Name: RTKHDA64.SYS
         Driver Version: 5.10.0000.5519 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
          Date and Size: 11/27/2007 07:07:00, 4632064 bytes
              Cap Flags: 0x0
           Format Flags: 0x0

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DirectMusic
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        DLS Path: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\drivers\etc\GM.DLS
     DLS Version: 1.00.0016.0002
    Acceleration: n/a
           Ports: Microsoft Synthesizer, Software (Not Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal, Default Port
                  Microsoft MIDI Mapper [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
                  Microsoft GS Wavetable SW Synth [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
        Registry: OK
     Test Result: Not run

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DirectInput Devices
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      Device Name: Mouse
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
        FF Driver: n/a

      Device Name: Keyboard
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
        FF Driver: n/a

      Device Name: Saitek X52 Flight Controller
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x06A3, 0x075C
        FF Driver: n/a

Poll w/ Interrupt: No
         Registry: OK

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USB Devices
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+ USB Root Hub
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x8086, 0x27CB
| Matching Device ID: usb\root_hub
| Service: usbhub

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Gameport Devices
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PS/2 Devices
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+ Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard
| Matching Device ID: *pnp0303
| Service: i8042prt
|
+ HID Keyboard Device
| Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_keyboard
| Service: kbdhid
|
+ Terminal Server Keyboard Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_kbd
| Upper Filters: kbdclass
| Service: TermDD
|
+ Microsoft PS/2 Mouse
| Matching Device ID: *pnp0f03
| Service: i8042prt
|
+ HID-compliant mouse
| Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_mouse
| Service: mouhid
|
+ Terminal Server Mouse Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_mou
| Upper Filters: mouclass
| Service: TermDD


Offline 2Slow

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Re: Problems with last patch.
« Reply #22 on: August 18, 2009, 08:36:30 PM »
Well 2slow, don't know what to tell you...I happen to have that Realtek audio driver running on my old HP system with WinXP SP3 (AC97 audio chip) and it's working fine regardless of the warnings (couldn't recommend it without trying it)...as for the video card driver I used the interactive support search function on AMD's website and after specifying that exact video card...there are 2 updated legacy driver packages available...9.3.1 from 7/5/2009 and 9.8 from 8/16/2009...the list of video cards that show up under those drivers are the latest card series to be "added" to the legacy driver list supported by those drivers.






One of the most valuable things I've learned over the past 18 years in various I.T. roles...just when you think you know what you're doing, you don't.

Good luck.

I now have over 9 hours of use, off-line (working on my town carpet bombing method), with no issues.  I shall get in some Titanic time tonight and see how things go.

Thanks for the info on Realtek.  If I have issues again, I shall give the drivers a try.
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Offline 2Slow

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Re: Problems with last patch.
« Reply #23 on: August 19, 2009, 10:14:13 AM »
Spent some time in Titanic Tuesday.  No issues.  Perhaps my previous two crashes on-line were a fluke.

Fingers crossed,
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Offline 2Slow

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Re: Problems with last patch.
« Reply #24 on: August 19, 2009, 10:18:24 AM »
Well 2slow, don't know what to tell you...I happen to have that Realtek audio driver running on my old HP system with WinXP SP3 (AC97 audio chip) and it's working fine regardless of the warnings (couldn't recommend it without trying it)...as for the video card driver I used the interactive support search function on AMD's website and after specifying that exact video card...there are 2 updated legacy driver packages available...9.3.1 from 7/5/2009 and 9.8 from 8/16/2009...the list of video cards that show up under those drivers are the latest card series to be "added" to the legacy driver list supported by those drivers.


I see what you are saying (in the bold).  I will give them a try soon.  Heck, one can always revert back on the driver.  Did I say always?  Perhaps I meant one should be able to revert back.

Thank you for your help in this matter.



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Good luck.
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Re: Problems with last patch.
« Reply #25 on: August 19, 2009, 11:38:17 AM »
I tried the ATI 9.8 driver install package.  It does not find a driver for my current setup.  9.3 package gives me what I already have.  So I do have the "latest" driver for the display.

So far I have not had any further issues with an AH crash.
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Re: Problems with last patch.
« Reply #26 on: August 19, 2009, 11:45:15 AM »
I tried the ATI 9.8 driver install package.  It does not find a driver for my current setup.  9.3 package gives me what I already have.  So I do have the "latest" driver for the display.

So far I have not had any further issues with an AH crash.
Ok cool Slow...if you're not crashing now, I wouldn't sweat it. It's really too bad AMD had to acquire ATI.

Is is possible that some of the crashes we experience come from server side? I mean consider a slight bug on the server, if the client can't translate it properly, the client continues to try until it gives up or crashes. Just a thought.
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Re: Problems with last patch.
« Reply #27 on: August 19, 2009, 11:48:36 AM »
Ok lets try this.
Gary, what's the status on your issues now? Did you remove your anti-virus and run some other diagnostics?

Your paging file usage is still pretty high...have you run any anti-spyware/malware programs on your system besides the anti-virus program that crashes your system?
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Re: Problems with last patch.
« Reply #28 on: August 19, 2009, 11:59:19 AM »
I am having the same problem.  
Have set all 3 video setting the same.  Have no other apps or antivirus running while playing.

DXDIAG:
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System Information
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Time of this report: 8/18/2009, 16:52:04
       Machine name: HOME-EB0AE14363
   Operating System: Windows XP Professional x64 Edition (5.2, Build 3790) Service Pack 2 (3790.srv03_sp2_gdr.090319-1204)
           Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
       System Model: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
               BIOS: Default System BIOS
          Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 3.20GHz (2 CPUs), ~3.2GHz
             Memory: 3264MB RAM
          Page File: 444MB used, 4666MB available
        Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
    DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
     DxDiag Version: 5.03.3790.3959 32bit Unicode



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Display Devices
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        Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 9400 GT
     Manufacturer: NVIDIA
        Chip type: GeForce 9400 GT
         DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
       Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0641&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A1
   Display Memory: 1024.0 MB
     Current Mode: 1280 x 960 (32 bit) (70Hz)
          Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
  Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
      Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
   Driver Version: 6.14.0011.8048 (English)
      DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
 Driver Date/Size: 11/12/2008 14:54:00, 8914560 bytes
      WHQL Logo'd: n/a
  WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
              VDD: n/a
         Mini VDD: nv4_mini.sys
    Mini VDD Date: 11/12/2008 14:54:00, 8149504 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-4501-11CF-C07C-0B2000C2CB35}

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Sound Devices
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            Description: Realtek HD Audio output
 Default Sound Playback: Yes
 Default Voice Playback: Yes
            Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0662&SUBSYS_18493662&REV_1001
        Manufacturer ID: 1
             Product ID: 100
                   Type: WDM
            Driver Name: RTKHDA64.SYS
         Driver Version: 5.10.0000.5519 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
            WHQL Logo'd: n/a
          Date and Size: 11/27/2007 07:07:00, 4632064 bytes
            Other Files:
        Driver Provider: Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
 
You're running Windows XP 64 bit...and your drivers look ok. Like Gary your paging file usage is high...any idea what you have running in the background? Like iTunes, Googledesktop...anything like that?

What texture size are you running? What have you tried?
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Re: Problems with last patch.
« Reply #29 on: August 19, 2009, 12:41:00 PM »
Also fair to note the 9400GT is a pretty low end video card.  It only makes use of DDR2 RAM.  Fill rate is pretty weak, comparatively speaking.  Probably should not be running with the "Detailed Terrain" option enabled.  I would also reduce the "Maximum Texture Size" to 256.
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