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Offline SnakeEyes

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« Reply #15 on: November 03, 2000, 08:47:00 PM »
Except for the gas in the wings, which would make its rollrate somewhat worse.

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« Reply #16 on: November 04, 2000, 01:09:00 AM »
Found this on the net:

"The XP-47N took to the air for the first time on July 22, 1944. Test comparisons were made with a P-47D-30-RE throughout the early portion
of the evaluation period. Much to everyone’s surprise, the XP-47N, with its greater wingspan and higher weight actually proved to have
better roll performance than the D model. At 250 mph TAS, the N attained a maximum roll rate just over 100 degrees/second. The
P-47D-30-RE could manage but 85 degrees/second at the same speed. At higher speeds, the N widened the gap further. In mock combat
with a P-47D-25-RE, the new fighter proved to be notably superior in every category of performance. In short, the XP-47 waxed the
venerable D model regardless of who was piloting the older fighter. The new wing was part of this newfound dogfighting ability, however,
the more powerful C series engine played a role too. The additional horsepower allowed the N to retain its energy better than the older
Thunderbolt. Perhaps the greatest performance increase was in maximum speed. Though not as fast as the stunning P-47M, the heavier N
was fully 40 mph faster than the P-47D-25-RE and could generate speeds 30 mph greater than its principal rival, the Mustang. Scorching
along at 467 mph @ 32,000 ft., the N could not be caught by any fighter in regular service with any air force on earth with the single
exception of its M model sibling. This combination of wing and engine had pushed the N model up to the top rank of the superlative prop
driven fighters then in existence."  www.home.att.net/~Historyzone/Seversky-Republic9.html

Also found more P47M info:

P-47M performance was as follows:

Max speed: 470-480 mph @ 28,500 ft. Climb, at max. gross weight (including three 75 gallon drop tanks): 4.9 minutes to 15,000 feet
at 2,600 rpm (1700 hp). Reportedly, the "M" could reach 20,000 feet in 5.7 minutes at military power (2,100 hp @ 2,800 rpm). 20,000
feet in 4.75 minutes in WEP (2,800 hp @ 2,800 rpm). This is with full internal fuel and ammo. No external stores or drop tanks. In
other words, normal load, clean configuration.
 http://www.geocities.com/pentagon/quarters/9485/P-47M.html

I would rather have the P47M, but will be happy with either model.  Just am dreading hearing the Luftwabble whines when they get into a tailchase and get left behind, or find that fat Jug climbing up their 6 in a climb   ..........then we will probably see the Jug toned down again to pacify our LW loving brethren.  


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« Reply #17 on: November 04, 2000, 02:04:00 AM »
If we go for some hypothetic scenarios which plane availabilities varies by that how your country is doing - then there would be needed TA-152 and other 'limited availability' german planes..
What would it be if allies would have top of the line fighters in fair numbers even if they're doing bad, but germans wouldn't have even that if they would be superior over allied in that part of scenario  

Oh well.. it'd be nice to have hypothetical 'campaigns'.

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« Reply #18 on: November 04, 2000, 02:40:00 AM »

Cool


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« Reply #19 on: November 04, 2000, 03:15:00 AM »
give us a V1 and u can have it

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« Reply #20 on: November 04, 2000, 03:29:00 AM »
I don't think the P47M was ever used as a V-1 interceptor.

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« Reply #21 on: November 04, 2000, 08:12:00 AM »
Great info Eddiek.

We allow the LW field mods, right... well the M was "moded" just a wee bit too by the 56th FG.    

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Offline eddiek

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« Reply #22 on: November 04, 2000, 10:50:00 AM »
Yup, I read that little bit about some of the crewchiefs "tweaked" their birds a bit, getting another 15mph out of them.........can you say 495-500mph?  
Like I said, the LW lovers will throw fits if we get this one, the M model.  Flown correctly, "should" be untouchable.

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« Reply #23 on: November 04, 2000, 10:57:00 AM »
M would be a fun toy.
N would be the escort fighter deluxe baby!

Offline Westy

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« Reply #24 on: November 09, 2000, 01:02:00 PM »
Good picture of two "N"s in flight I found:

 

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« Reply #25 on: November 09, 2000, 06:00:00 PM »
Gabreski ever fly the M or N?

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« Reply #26 on: November 09, 2000, 08:32:00 PM »
Oh my god, the "N" on the right looks almost like a F8 bearcat.


Jack, Gabby flew the "M" and other previous versions too, but the late war 56th camo w/invasion stripes is the best looking  

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« Reply #27 on: November 10, 2000, 12:03:00 AM »
SFRT - Frenchy said:
>Oh my god, the "N" on the right looks almost like a F8 bearcat.
 
He he, does that mean that it is based on the FW190...  :-)



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« Reply #28 on: November 10, 2000, 06:32:00 AM »
All good American fighters were based on the FW-190, didn't ya know?  
We won't get either of these if they give the LW birds a run for their money.  Some folks just can't accept that the US produced some outstanding planes during the war.

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« Reply #29 on: November 10, 2000, 06:45:00 AM »
P-47M would have to be the easiest variant ever. Simply give the P-47D-30 2800HP, paint it in 56th green/grey camo and it's done!