Puffy Ack

[Sunka]

Wait...are you in a bird or a pony?

Its a transformer,so both a pony and bird ,and best of all a radio.

[RELIC]

Nothing in the ack has changed except there are more of them.

HiTech

So the amount of damage you take if you get hit is the same - its just that now there are just a lot more of them exploding around you?   

[Scratchman]

Realistic ? Hmm, I was teasing it last night just to see how it had changed. I find it to be much intense although less accurate.
As far as realistic, well I'm not sure puffy back in the day could range you at 10-15 miles, but I could be wrong 

Yes more realistic. If you ever watched any films, documentaries, or movies pertaining to WWII, you will see that there was a lot of ack from ships. Which in comparison prior to the change we really didn't have that recreated to it's full effect in AH, until now. At least in my opinion. As for the range of 10-15 miles, I haven't seen that at all, and I don't think I ever will in the game. Not saying I am a fan of it, especially with the current CV bug that allows a sunken CV group to respawn back where it was killed at. But as a simulation game designed to recreate war from that era, it is more accurate.

[Baumer]

Well at least it's not this bad!


This is a quote from the 5" 38 caliber Operating Instructions;
"Control! GUN FIVE reporting-LARGE GROUP of HORIZONTAL BOMBERS-bearing ONE THREE FIVE position angle TEN-distance--TEN MILES-HEADING THIS WAY!"

Here's the manual in electronic form;
http://www.hnsa.org/doc/destroyer/fiveinch/index.htm

[SIM]

This is a quote from the 5" 38 caliber Operating Instructions;
"Control! GUN FIVE reporting-LARGE GROUP of HORIZONTAL BOMBERS-bearing ONE THREE FIVE position angle TEN-distance--TEN MILES-HEADING THIS WAY!"

Finally! Someone actually took the time to do some research on 5" 38 caliber anti-aircraft fire.

A 5" 38 caliber gun had a range of over 10 miles. Do the research.
With RAP rounds that range could at times be drastically increased even tho the accuracy was very much deminished. Anyone have an idea what a RAP round is/was?

Salute Baumer! Well Done!

Now if some of these "Eww ack hurts me" whiners would check it out as much as they supposedly "research" the aircraft and flying, maybe this whine would finally die!

[Vudak]

Now if some of these "Eww ack hurts me" whiners would check it out as much as they supposedly "research" the aircraft and flying, maybe this whine would finally die!

1.  Can puffy ack kill-shoot itself (or destroy a friendly aircraft, when the puffy ack is manned)? 

2.  Can cv groups realistically get THAT close to EVERY shoreline in the world?

[Baumer]

Thanks SIM,

RAP- Rocket Assisted Projectile from the navweps site;  the 5 inch "RAP round had a maximum range of 23,770 yards (21,735 m)".

The 8" LRBA used by the Cruisers we have in game would be awesome as well    but they weren't developed until the late 60's.

"5) In the late 1960s the "Gunfighter" program at Indian Head Naval Ordnance Station developed Long Range Bombardment Ammunition (LRBA) projectiles.  These were Arrow Shells with a body diameter of 4.125" (10.4 cm) and a fin diameter of 5.0" (12.7 cm) which were sized to be fired from 8" (20.3 cm) guns by using a sabot and obturator system.  Tests with these in 1968 showed maximum ranges of 72,000 yards (66,000 m).  The burster in these shells was PBX-w-106, a castable explosive.  Sabot weighed 17.6 lbs. (8.0 kg) and was discarded as the projectile left the muzzle.  After a test firing off Okinawa of three inert-loaded shells, USS St. Paul (CA-73) in 1970 conducted a two day bombardment mission against Viet Cong positions at ranges up to 70,000 yards (64,000 m).  At the time, St. Paul was the only 8" gunned cruiser still in active service." That's over 39.5 miles away!

great source of info; http://www.navweaps.com



BTW, this is the photo that's supposed to be in my earlier post,

[4deck]

I would like to see mannable puffy ack on the field.

heres my Wish http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,271906.0.html

[moot]

Finally! Someone actually took the time to do some research on 5" 38 caliber anti-aircraft fire.

Still, AH flak doesn't have collision detection (flies thru obstacles like mountains), and updates instantly (the moment you breach 3kft, even thousands of yards away).   If you're maneuvering at 400+ from 10K away, there ought to be a significant delay in the flak following you.

[oakranger]

I have been shot down by "friendly" puffy quite a few times in the past.
Including losing 2 Me 262s when I was trying to kill buffs inbound to our CV 

Well, that will make it more legalistic.

[Anaxogoras]

Still, AH flak doesn't have collision detection (flies thru obstacles like mountains), and updates instantly (the moment you breach 3kft, even thousands of yards away).   If you're maneuvering at 400+ from 10K away, there ought to be a significant delay in the flak following you.

Yup, that puffy doesn't come close to following the laws of physics is complaint #1.

[Saxman]

There was a map before the arena splits where one of the airfields was right above a strat target. And I mean LITERALLY. You looked down the hill from the end of the runway and the strat is RIGHT THERE. This airfield was NOT the Zone base, either, which means there were times where you had the airfield, but NOT the strat target. The airfield was a high base at ~4-5k.

It was NOT fun taking puffy ack fire while sitting on the runway.

[Lusche]

That was on Mindanao

[RELIC]

It reminds me of an ex - pretty, but annoying.