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Re: The Brewster 1 month on
« Reply #15 on: August 18, 2009, 06:13:45 PM »
Exactly.  About a week ago I ran into a Brewster in the MW arena and we both merged, the Brewster went into a flat turn to come swing around and I went vertical against it and got the kill.  The player in the Brewster complained that I fought him in the vertical, I was actually surprised by this veteran player getting upset because I would not lufberry turn on the deck against his Brewster, where he would have easily chewed up my P-38J.

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Re: The Brewster 1 month on
« Reply #16 on: August 18, 2009, 06:15:56 PM »
Exactly.  About a week ago I ran into a Brewster in the MW arena and we both merged, the Brewster went into a flat turn to come swing around and I went vertical against it and got the kill.  The player in the Brewster complained that I fought him in the vertical, I was actually surprised by this veteran player getting upset because I would not lufberry turn on the deck against his Brewster, where he would have easily chewed up my P-38J.

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 :confused:, why would you ever want to flat turn a 38 against anything :huh, people are strange what they complain about :lol

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Re: The Brewster 1 month on
« Reply #17 on: August 18, 2009, 06:54:07 PM »
:confused:, why would you ever want to flat turn a 38 against anything :huh, people are strange what they complain about :lol

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Re: The Brewster 1 month on
« Reply #18 on: August 18, 2009, 07:21:44 PM »
Exactly.  About a week ago I ran into a Brewster in the MW arena and we both merged, the Brewster went into a flat turn to come swing around and I went vertical against it and got the kill.  The player in the Brewster complained that I fought him in the vertical, I was actually surprised by this veteran player getting upset because I would not lufberry turn on the deck against his Brewster, where he would have easily chewed up my P-38J.

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One of my favorite fights was in Beta, me in my 1A vs. his Brewster. I refused to play his game and kept open and vertical, and he whined about me fighting him in an "uber ride." Too bad perks were turned on, otherwise I'd have landed and come back in a -4. :D
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Re: The Brewster 1 month on
« Reply #19 on: August 18, 2009, 07:36:29 PM »
I am curious to see how the I-16 compares, does it post similiar numbers or is it just a target drone for the masses?


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Re: The Brewster 1 month on
« Reply #20 on: August 18, 2009, 07:50:01 PM »
As far as I can see, the I-16 is taken less frequently into the sky (only about 60% of the Brewster's kills & deaths) and with somewhat less success (overall K/D 0.87 compared to 0.97). Not surprsing to me as the I-16 is indeed a more difficult ride than the B-236, especially when it comes to the gun package.

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Re: The Brewster 1 month on
« Reply #21 on: August 18, 2009, 07:59:04 PM »
Exactly.  About a week ago I ran into a Brewster in the MW arena and we both merged, the Brewster went into a flat turn to come swing around and I went vertical against it and got the kill.  The player in the Brewster complained that I fought him in the vertical, I was actually surprised by this veteran player getting upset because I would not lufberry turn on the deck against his Brewster, where he would have easily chewed up my P-38J.

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Re: The Brewster 1 month on
« Reply #22 on: August 19, 2009, 12:43:47 AM »
With the little time i have had so far with the Brew, it is far from uber but not bad at all overall if you adapt the correct mindset for flying it.
It surely is a lot of sweaty palms to work efficiently with it, but the reward is a nice spitty16 or insertasuperplanehere -kill.
It is too slow for the timid pickers, and also for the flat turn fighters.

But for what it is greatly underestimated, is the ability to rapid changing of flight attitude.
All the Pick51's i have encountered don't seem to grasp how fast the Brew can change angles and reverse their pick to a shooting position.
Then with the 4x laser's it is a matter of holding the beam in a suitable place for 1 to 2 seconds for effect.
I still tend to over-lead a lot, but i am sure i will get more familiar with the lasers in due time.

What is really challenging in a Brew, is to be able to avoid all the picks, and that can be done only by maintaining sufficient E.
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Re: The Brewster 1 month on
« Reply #23 on: August 19, 2009, 01:01:31 AM »
With the little time i have had so far with the Brew, it is far from uber but not bad at all overall if you adapt the correct mindset for flying it.
It surely is a lot of sweaty palms to work efficiently with it, but the reward is a nice spitty16 or insertasuperplanehere -kill.
It is too slow for the timid pickers, and also for the flat turn fighters.

But for what it is greatly underestimated, is the ability to rapid changing of flight attitude.
All the Pick51's i have encountered don't seem to grasp how fast the Brew can change angles and reverse their pick to a shooting position.
Then with the 4x laser's it is a matter of holding the beam in a suitable place for 1 to 2 seconds for effect.
I still tend to over-lead a lot, but i am sure i will get more familiar with the lasers in due time.

What is really challenging in a Brew, is to be able to avoid all the picks, and that can be done only by maintaining sufficient E.


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Re: The Brewster 1 month on
« Reply #24 on: August 19, 2009, 01:05:03 AM »
Anaxogoras, do not be surprised by the one who defines anything that kills him as "uber".

Typical rant from a child.

Not sure about that - I remember Krusty once telling me where i was going wrong... after i killed him for the third or so consecutive time from reversal shots.
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Re: The Brewster 1 month on
« Reply #25 on: August 19, 2009, 01:25:09 AM »
You say it like it's a bad thing! :devil

No no, i like pickers (and reversing on them especially), and i do my fair share of it my self also, however i do not like the Picker's Extraordinaire who seem possess ability for mind reading and have a glass ball & pointy hat installed in their planes. 
You know who i am talking to  :devil
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Re: The Brewster 1 month on
« Reply #26 on: August 19, 2009, 02:27:30 AM »
As far as I can see, the I-16 is taken less frequently into the sky (only about 60% of the Brewster's kills & deaths) and with somewhat less success (overall K/D 0.87 compared to 0.97). Not surprsing to me as the I-16 is indeed a more difficult ride than the B-236, especially when it comes to the gun package.

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I think the reduced thrust at low speed during beta definitely gave the Brewster the upper hand.
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Re: The Brewster 1 month on
« Reply #27 on: August 19, 2009, 06:30:09 AM »
In an early war set the Brewster is somewhat surprising re its competancy v Spit1's 109E's etc. Its e retention in turn v this birds is very good IMO.

In the MA no late war (or most mid war) ac should loose to it. As often said above stay vertical keep above it and BnZ and its late war opponent will be safe to choose his snap shot.

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Re: The Brewster 1 month on
« Reply #28 on: August 19, 2009, 06:38:55 AM »
In an early war set the Brewster is somewhat surprising re its competancy v Spit1's 109E's etc.

Unfortunately, those planes have been almost rarer in EW than in LW. The introduction if the B-239 and I-16 didn't change the utter dominance of the Hurricane IIC (still having ENY 10 only!) in any way.
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Re: The Brewster 1 month on
« Reply #29 on: August 19, 2009, 09:07:22 AM »
Dude, come on. It's basically an FM2 except it doesn't absorb as much ammo as keep flying. Not nearly as tough to E fight as a Zeke because its thrust/weight is pretty low. By what numerical measure is it significantly more dangerous than the Zekes, Hurris, and FM2s we already had?

Considering it's modeled as uber, and can engage ANY late war monster plane on even footing and most times kill it, I think it's a travesty of an addition to AH.


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