Author Topic: Scoring Logic and Contents (Read 1579 times)

Beegerite · « **on:** March 21, 2000, 12:17:00 PM »

I've made it a practice to punish myself every night by printing out my score sheet and comparing myself to the previous night as well as to other m8s. Wheew! There's a lot of info on these sheets. Some items are pretty clear but the overall formulas escape me. If anyone knows what each item means and how it's calculated I think it would be of interest to all. I would strongly suspect that we might also learn just what kind of situation we're most vulnerable against and plan accordingly.
Thanks
Beeg

Hangtime · « **Reply #1 on:** March 21, 2000, 12:33:00 PM »

Beeg..

Don't do it. That way lies the dark side. Next thing yah know; yer ranting and raging at yerself; at yer comrades; flying 'safe' and squeaking constantly about the guy that got yah last.

Ignore the scores. Just fly; and enjoy yerself. Screw the scorecard. Scorecards don't mention "mission accomplised"; don't mention "wingman saved" don't mention "heluva defense" or "outstanding dogfights". it's just raw tabulated numbers that really don't mean dick about how good a pilot is.

My 2 cents....

Hang

Chain · « **Reply #2 on:** March 21, 2000, 12:35:00 PM »

Amen hangtime !

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Sn1p3r · « **Reply #3 on:** March 21, 2000, 12:39:00 PM »

I agree Hangtime ... if I were to look at my score after all the times I have been vultched trying to defend a field ... ewww .. I don't even want to go there.

Hangtime has it nailed .. just fly and have a good time and kill every P51 in the sky looking for that cat!

-Sn1p3r

Ripsnort · « **Reply #4 on:** March 21, 2000, 12:55:00 PM »

Score Schmore, it's all about the squad I fly with, not the score...score monkeys are for those who are basically "lone wolfs"...fly high, never engage except when the odds favor them, easy to do..takes time and patience, but really no challenge in lone wolfing, you bound to find the odds stacked in your favor if you fly around long enough.

IMO, what is a challenge is flying with a squad as a unit, watching each others six, doing ops together.

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Torque · « **Reply #5 on:** March 21, 2000, 01:00:00 PM »

Sn1p3r nice F4U pic.
Heh the only reason the above and me are saying this is because guess what...

Been there, done it, hated it end of story.

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Mighty1 · « **Reply #6 on:** March 21, 2000, 01:01:00 PM »

I'm a lone wolf type myself but I really don't care about scores.

Scores only take the fun outta flying IMHO.

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Pongo · « **Reply #7 on:** March 21, 2000, 02:29:00 PM »

Other then to encourage you too fly a bomber or a goon from time to time, I would say ignore it.
You can be having no fun at all and still have a great score.

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Hangtime · « **Reply #8 on:** March 21, 2000, 05:23:00 PM »

LOL Sniper!!!

Thanks... Hey.. how many times have we 'discovered' one another doin exactly the same things from opposite sides now?? LOL.. it seems that every time I'm on one of my little "expeditions into the promised land" I discover YOU hot on my six!! -- or vice versa!

Salute; sir!.. love the way you fly this sim FLAT OUT!

Beegerite · « **Reply #9 on:** March 21, 2000, 06:30:00 PM »

OK, guess I'm not the only one who doesn't have any idea of how these scores are calculated or what has an impact on them, LOL. I should clarify. I do not give a flaming rat's arse about the scores for the sake of the scores and I definetely hold the fun of flying with my squad m8s, other Rooks and even the dreaded Nits and Bish well above anything else. BUT there must be something to be learned from all these stats if they are indeed accurate even if it's which plane am I best in. Soooo! if you know the answer to my questions please share. And one last thing what kind of person who doesn't care squat about scores takes the time to read a message which clearly identifies the topic as something they don't care about, eh? Me thinks some do protest too much.
Rgds Again
Beeg

RangerBob · « **Reply #10 on:** March 21, 2000, 09:27:00 PM »

Your very right to ask this question, and I understand your fustration with the answers recommending you not pay attention to the score.

I do agree that you should forget the score, but since there is a score the formula should be posted for all to see.

The real truth is that no one, except maybe Hitech, knows how this complicated score is computed. It's my opinion that if the formula were actually released you would find it totally unrealistic.

In my opinion the only realistic score would be your latest string of kills. Once your dead you would start your string over with another life.

You will have more fun if you forget the score.

RANGER BOB

eskimo · « **Reply #11 on:** March 22, 2000, 08:20:00 AM »

I agree that paying too close attention to scores can really hose the enjoyment of this game, but I also find it fun to compare. And I must say that I think the scoring system in AH rules because it encourages overall qualities in a pilot instead of just one flying style and value system. Pure K/D creates a bunch of safty-dweebs.

The scoring concept is really pretty simple. Look at the 10 categories at the bottom of the individual pilot score page. Your ranking in each of the 10 categories is averaged. That average is compared against the rest of the pack. So basically:

Kill lots of guys in each sortie really fast, and don't miss much. In buffs, don't die, and don't miss. Don't ignor the C-47 either.

Remember for the scoring system, a death is;
1+
Each death
Each bail
# of discos divided by 2

eskimo

Hangtime · « **Reply #12 on:** March 22, 2000, 05:47:00 PM »

LOL.. "methinks you doth protest to much!!"

Ok.. I confess. I'm mystified as to the score system myself; and have mentioned before that I'm the poster boy for why this score system needs some attention. Hence my intrest in score topics.

Yes; flying for the scorecard is in my opinion counter productive on the enjoyment scale but I concede that the scorecard has its uses... particularly the gunnery scores. Early on in a TOD you can see immediate results on your gunsight selection and conversion settings changes; and it's helpful in deciding whats working and what's not.

As for the score system itself; it would appear that it rewards pilots that fly fighters AND buffs AND c47's... IE; if you fly the strategy side as well as the tactical side, the system will reward you with a higher score. I think.

This is fine fer me... I like to fly the whole sim.. all elements in it. However; this unfairly bias' the score system against anyone who came here just to fly fighters; or just buffs... one exclusive of the other is not rewarded by overall score rankings in line with the pilots skills in his avowed area of expertise.

Kinda exclusionary for the guys that can't stand the thought of flying something that has no guns; like a C47.

On the other hand; if yah wanna see the best pilots in the sim ranked as they should be; then just click on the column headers and select K/D ratio. The system will then show you in descending order who the real fighter pilots are.

Hang

Beegerite · « **Reply #13 on:** March 22, 2000, 07:16:00 PM »

Ah!, Now we're getting somewhere! This is good insight Hangtime and just what I was looking for a vet telling me what he's found.
Don't think I said this before but I suspect that this is an excellent system though as you state maybe it could be slightly descriminatory depending on how you fly the game. One thing which I think is excellent is the timing feature which should give you an indication of your improvement over same. At this point it only tells me that I suck as much in AH as I did in FA, LOL

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Originally posted by Hangtime:
LOL.. "methinks you doth protest to much!!"

Ok.. I confess. I'm mystified as to the score system myself; and have mentioned before that I'm the poster boy for why this score system needs some attention. Hence my intrest in score topics.

Yes; flying for the scorecard is in my opinion counter productive on the enjoyment scale but I concede that the scorecard has its uses... particularly the gunnery scores. Early on in a TOD you can see immediate results on your gunsight selection and conversion settings changes; and it's helpful in deciding whats working and what's not.

As for the score system itself; it would appear that it rewards pilots that fly fighters AND buffs AND c47's... IE; if you fly the strategy side as well as the tactical side, the system will reward you with a higher score. I think.

This is fine fer me... I like to fly the whole sim.. all elements in it. However; this unfairly bias' the score system against anyone who came here just to fly fighters; or just buffs... one exclusive of the other is not rewarded by overall score rankings in line with the pilots skills in his avowed area of expertise.

Kinda exclusionary for the guys that can't stand the thought of flying something that has no guns; like a C47.

On the other hand; if yah wanna see the best pilots in the sim ranked as they should be; then just click on the column headers and select K/D ratio. The system will then show you in descending order who the real fighter pilots are.

Hang