Concerning high eny aircraft.

[Anaxogoras]

I consider the Corsair pretty similar to the P38...  Both have more than enough tools to stand a decent chance against most if not all of the plane set, but if they were really "easy mode" (which both have been accused of now and then), then we'd see two things happen:

1. We would recommend them to newbies as a first ride; and

Funny you mention that.  There's no doubt that HT has clipped the 38's wings compared to how he used to model it, because back in the '90s the P-38 was the plane that was recommended to newbies.

http://www.rdrop.com/users/hoofj/P-38L.htm

Just read hoof's writeup on the 38L for a laugh.  Sustained 360 turn in 15 seconds (that's what our Spit V does now)!

The P38L has been called in Warbirds, and rightfully so, the Super Plane. The P38L is Jack of all trades, and master of most. The P38L does practically everything well, it dives with the best of them, is fast, has excellent high altitude performance, rolls with the best of them, until beyond 275mph, where it leaves all other planes in the dust, outturns all but the Zero and Ki43...

[CAP1]

I consider the Corsair pretty similar to the P38...  Both have more than enough tools to stand a decent chance against most if not all of the plane set, but if they were really "easy mode" (which both have been accused of now and then), then we'd see two things happen:

1. We would recommend them to newbies as a first ride; and
2. They would not be the two aircraft that have, hands down, the most requests for assistance with in the Help & Training area (I'd say the 109K4 is probably 3rd).

I'll agree that you are correct that a player who has put time and effort into this game can have great success with comparative ease in a Corsair, 38, or K4, as opposed to some other aircraft, but this is a reflection of the effort they have put into the game as a whole, and not a reflection of the planes actually being "easy" for the every day joe to fly well.  In fact, all have some serious quirks that can quickly seal your fate if you're not careful.  I know there are plenty of times where I push it too hard and have a costly misstep, and it's been my favorite ride for years.

 

i don't know much about the corsairs.....'cept that i keep gettin my bellybutton kicked by good pile-its in them.......


but the p38. she's good at everything. she's not exceptional at anything. she's not forgiving of very many mistakes. but if you use her attributes together, and properly, she'll reward ya. she'll get ya the kill. she'll even get ya home if ya choose to bug out.
 she is by no means an easymode aircraft. if you stall her at the wrong time, and the wrong aoa, she'll bite ya in the ass, and you'll meet the cartoon ground rather quickly.

 i love the challenge of flying her.

[Ack-Ack]

Funny you mention that.  There's no doubt that HT has clipped the 38's wings compared to how he used to model it, because back in the '90s the P-38 was the plane that was recommended to newbies.

http://www.rdrop.com/users/hoofj/P-38L.htm

Just read hoof's writeup on the 38L for a laugh.  Sustained 360 turn in 15 seconds (that's what our Spit V does now)!
 

Probably Pyro's doing.  He's been a P-38 driver at heart since his AW days when he was one of the better P-38 sticks in that game.


ack-ack

[Letalis]

22 is the number for me because it's the oddest even number around. 
I completely understand what shreck was getting at earlier: In a P47 I will fly a much better fight than say a spit9,14,16 and the k/d tells the same story after each tour.  The jug was my beginner ride for sentimental reasons and now it is the fallback ride when I want to land kills and aspire to join the ranks of der ubersnobben picktards. 
On a side note: the F6F is a sentimental fav too but unfortunately the 47 holds almost all the cards- speed, firepower, toughness, roll, dive, high speed flaps, more ammo, more ord, better climb >10k and most importantly a rear view. I even count the cockpit layout in favor of the 47. In fact when you look at production times the F6F-3 (nearly identical performance to F6F-5) correlates to the P-47B! Yes it has a pretty blue paint job and a tailhook but IMHO the F6F should be a 20ENY ride allowing me to fly it with a clear conscience   All other 15 ENY rides generally butcher this poor bird if Greebo isn't at the controls. Thus this guy agrees in longwinded fashion that ENY is not a reliable indicator of killing efficiency.

[usvi]

Luv flyin' the FW-190a5 landing is fun too,just rare.
Fly whatever you like,more power to ya.

[thrila]

I flew the spit 9 for years when i first played and it never did me any harm.

A new player will only learn and improve if he is willing to do so, regardless of what aircraft he is flying.

[Shuffler]

Fly any plane you want, just don't come on the forums and complain you want more competition when 99% of what you fly is late war, low eny aircraft.

(note:this comment wasn't directed at anyone in this thread)

We all know this was directed at Mensa......

[Kazaa]

Have fun running like little girls in your 20+ eny fighters.

[Shuffler]

Have fun running like little girls in your 20+ eny fighters.

Are they running or just waiting for you to come down so you can see their icon. 



 

[morfiend]

Rich,

  I dont comment on these types of threads often but it's nice to see your change in attitude!

 There was a time when you'd say what value does an early bird bring and that we need a perked bomber,etc. So it was surprizing to me to see this post,to say the least.

 I'm glad you see the value in the higher eny planes now and are enjoying the fact that it's fun to fly the early/hi eny planes even in an arena full of those other planes.

   

[CAP1]

Have fun running like little girls in your 20+ eny fighters.

i don't fly anything that's fast enough to run away. 

[uptown]

If ya kill everyone, you won't have to run 

[BoilerDown]

When I run its because my Yak is out of bullets, not 'cause I'm faster than you and I want my pixels to not get shot up.   

[texastc316]

I'm not running. I'm picking up E for the next HO pass

[Enker]

Have fun running like little girls in your 20+ eny fighters.

It isn't running, it's called "strategically gaining an advantage over the opponent."