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Offline TwinEng

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Re: SCRAP ENY ONCE AND FOR ALL
« Reply #120 on: August 30, 2009, 07:16:11 PM »
Many people have listened, but you seem to not really listen to the other people.  You seem to not take into account what other people say, and just repeat what you have said before.

Have you considered that it is not really ENY that is causing people in your squad to leave? How long has ENY been implemented? How many of your squad started playing prior to ENY being implemented? If they started after why is it ENY is now causing them to leave but did not before?

Have you considered that more people were leaving before ENY was implemented. So your argument is that we should have more people leave AH so that you can still play with your squad? Because that is what your desire leads to. So now is this really what your asking for, or is it I am just not listening to you?

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You have not really paid any attention at all or listened to what I have said either.   They told me that their unhappiness with how ENY is implemented was indeed a part of their decision.   I am not speculating at all about that, so you point on that is totally invalid.  However, as I mentioned, it was actually problems with the latest release that was the final straw that caused them to actually depart the game.

Obviously, you are completely unconcerned here that you have lost some customers.  For I see no expression at all here by you about that.  I'm sort of an indirect casualty, as it was not my decision to disband the squads.   I looked at Battleground Europe, and saw a number of issues with that game that I really did not care for.   And to be honest, I don't want to go to the bother of learning an entirely new complex game and starting from scratch when I have so many years invested into this game and from Air Warrior.

Likewise, though, I've become extremely disillusioned about playing this game, as I had looked long and hard to find a squad that I enjoyed flying with.  I don't even know another Knights squad that I am at all impressed with or would want to join.  And I've been a Knight so long, that I really don't know much about either Rook or Bishop squads.  In any event, I have other hobbies and interests that I would like to spend more time on at this point in my life.  So perhaps the timing of this is all for the best, as I will now be able to devote more time to them.

I just wanted to explain why I was leaving the game.  I'm not here to argue with you or anyone else.

And to others commenting in this thread:  Yes, my personal relationships with those that I played with were much more important to me than the actual game itself.  And to be honest, I feel sorry for anyone who feels that any computer game is more important to them than their interpersonal relationships.


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Re: SCRAP ENY ONCE AND FOR ALL
« Reply #121 on: August 30, 2009, 07:19:52 PM »
ENy is not making people leave the game fast enough  :devil
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Re: SCRAP ENY ONCE AND FOR ALL
« Reply #122 on: August 30, 2009, 10:17:55 PM »
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Re: SCRAP ENY ONCE AND FOR ALL
« Reply #123 on: August 31, 2009, 12:17:56 AM »

You have not really paid any attention at all or listened to what I have said either.   They told me that their unhappiness with how ENY is implemented was indeed a part of their decision.   I am not speculating at all about that, so you point on that is totally invalid.  However, as I mentioned, it was actually problems with the latest release that was the final straw that caused them to actually depart the game.

Obviously, you are completely unconcerned here that you have lost some customers.  For I see no expression at all here by you about that.  I'm sort of an indirect casualty, as it was not my decision to disband the squads.   I looked at Battleground Europe, and saw a number of issues with that game that I really did not care for.   And to be honest, I don't want to go to the bother of learning an entirely new complex game and starting from scratch when I have so many years invested into this game and from Air Warrior.

Likewise, though, I've become extremely disillusioned about playing this game, as I had looked long and hard to find a squad that I enjoyed flying with.  I don't even know another Knights squad that I am at all impressed with or would want to join.  And I've been a Knight so long, that I really don't know much about either Rook or Bishop squads.  In any event, I have other hobbies and interests that I would like to spend more time on at this point in my life.  So perhaps the timing of this is all for the best, as I will now be able to devote more time to them.

I just wanted to explain why I was leaving the game.  I'm not here to argue with you or anyone else.

And to others commenting in this thread:  Yes, my personal relationships with those that I played with were much more important to me than the actual game itself.  And to be honest, I feel sorry for anyone who feels that any computer game is more important to them than their interpersonal relationships.


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If the relationships I've built over the years through AW and AH were so fragile that something as trivial as ENY could wreck them, then they aren't much in terms of relationships anyway.

Not once has ENY stopped me from flying with or against the friends I've made in the game.
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Re: SCRAP ENY ONCE AND FOR ALL
« Reply #124 on: August 31, 2009, 12:41:20 AM »
man you got owned by hitech. that must suck. lol

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« Reply #125 on: August 31, 2009, 01:49:36 AM »
I like to see ppl whining about ENY. :lol
BTW, 29 isnt high enough, imho, 39 would be better :aok
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Re: SCRAP ENY ONCE AND FOR ALL
« Reply #126 on: August 31, 2009, 02:19:55 PM »
Looking at the planesets eny values I've noticed that it really doesn't effect the horde.
All the JABO rides don't get effected until 20 and the only bomber that is effected is the lanc at 15.
Wouldn't it make more sense to have the ENY ratings set on how the plane would effect game play not on how "uber" as a fighter?


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Re: SCRAP ENY ONCE AND FOR ALL
« Reply #127 on: August 31, 2009, 03:05:56 PM »
DKL ENY is a measure biased to A2A rather than A2G.. Object value is the ground pounding ENY.  A P47D40 might carry enough ord to total a lot on the ground, but in the air it's really outperformed by La7s, N1Ks, etc.  The D40s and other heavy hitters need the rest of the lower ENY planeset to complement them in order to make an effective horde, the same way dedicated ground attackers like the Il2 and 25H need air cover to be effective.

I dunno if the ENY values and scaling are perfect, but it does ramp up pretty quick when it is activated.
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Re: SCRAP ENY ONCE AND FOR ALL
« Reply #128 on: August 31, 2009, 03:08:55 PM »
All the JABO rides don't get effected until 20 and the only bomber that is effected is the lanc at 15.

The NOE horde planes of choice are

110G ENY 10
N1K ENY 5

and to some extend
Typhoon ENY 10
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Re: SCRAP ENY ONCE AND FOR ALL
« Reply #129 on: August 31, 2009, 03:25:55 PM »


I just wanted to explain why I was leaving the game.  I'm not here to argue with you or anyone else.

And to others commenting in this thread:  Yes, my personal relationships with those that I played with were much more important to me than the actual game itself.  And to be honest, I feel sorry for anyone who feels that any computer game is more important to them than their interpersonal relationships.


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Re: SCRAP ENY ONCE AND FOR ALL
« Reply #130 on: August 31, 2009, 03:53:08 PM »
I kinda wish that ENY'd play an even bigger part of the game...  What if HTC built more of a total war into the Main?  Scatter bridges around the map and make them bombable... bring back the ack-fortress steam trains and make them killable too... create supply convoys that steam to ports...  tie the strat targets into it too... 

Then, make it so that, if a certain percentage of those targets get flattened, a small ENY penalty gets pushed onto nearby bases.  maybe 5 to 10 points... 15 in extreme cases.  Map makers could tie specific strat targets to specific airfields... Defensive fields further back in friendly territory might not have strat targets so that underdog defenders could flatten attacker's strats and get a bit of a leg up over the steamrolling competition (just like what vehicle spawns encourage)...  It could even be limited to frontline bases only. 

Finally, write each base's ENY in big numbers on the tower chalkboard so it's crystal-clear what players are getting into when they move to a new base.


It might encourage players to branch out from the top few planes, even if just for a bit...  5 to 10 points wouldn't be too bad anyway.  I think that it'd make for some interesting fights...  Bombers and strafers would have all sorts of moving (and non-moving) targets to hit (mixing it up from just raiding airfields), and fighters would get plenty of CAP and interdiction work...