Yes, ENY again...

[GlassJaw]

 

HTC,

When there is an imbalance of players from one arena to another from a specific country, how about not punishing the folks with balanced numbers with ENY.
I log in and one arena is at its cap, and am only given one arean choice (my squad is bish)

Here is the general situation:
           Yellow   Blue
Rooks    70      10
Bish       50      30
Nits       50       30

Bish and nits seeing high ENY in blue because too many rooks in Yellow.  Bish and rooks have the right numbers in the right places but rooks not getting punished while bish and nits are.  HTC your eny idea might work for a single arena setup but is broken with your multi arena method.  And dont tell me to change countries because your squad based system does not make this possible.  For the love of god, please fix your broken eny system.

Your disgruntled customer,
Glassjaw

[Anaxogoras]

In English?

[Tec]

A bag of walnuts.

[moot]

Sounds like he's wishing for ENY of the two LW arenas to be kept separate.  Which as far as I know, it already is.

[Anaxogoras]

His edit made his post understandable.  He's actually asking that ENY not me separate for the two lwa's.

[Bronk]

Take your squad to the other arena and help balance it out.
Or...

Continue to fly with the lemmings and deal with the eny.

[moot]

The way it reads to me is that he assumes ENY is common between the two arenas:

Here is the general situation:
...
Bish and nits seeing high ENY in blue because too many rooks in Yellow. 

Which as far as I know, isn't how it is.

[batch]

We have a "yellow" arena now?

[CAP1]

HTC,

When there is an imbalance of players from one arena to another from a specific country, how about not punishing the folks with balanced numbers with ENY.
I log in and one arena is at its cap, and am only given one arean choice (my squad is bish)

Here is the general situation:
           Yellow   Blue
Rooks    70      10
Bish       50      30
Nits       50       30

Bish and nits seeing high ENY in blue because too many rooks in Yellow.  Bish and rooks have the right numbers in the right places but rooks not getting punished while bish and nits are.  HTC your eny idea might work for a single arena setup but is broken with your multi arena method.  And dont tell me to change countries because your squad based system does not make this possible.  For the love of god, please fix your broken eny system.

Your disgruntled customer,
Glassjaw

i'm confused?

you're only given one arena choice? so you're saying all of the other arenas except for the one you're in are at their cap?

 that's amazing, as i've never seen the mw, ew, ava, sea, da, ta at cap.........

[gyrene81]

that's amazing, as i've never seen the mw, ew, ava, sea, da, ta at cap.........

Same here...but then most of the time the ew has only 7 and the mw has only 34...what's keeping people from using them? Not enough runstang choices?

[Ack-Ack]

HTC,

When there is an imbalance of players from one arena to another from a specific country, how about not punishing the folks with balanced numbers with ENY.
I log in and one arena is at its cap, and am only given one arean choice (my squad is bish)

Here is the general situation:
           Yellow   Blue
Rooks    70      10
Bish       50      30
Nits       50       30

Bish and nits seeing high ENY in blue because too many rooks in Yellow.  Bish and rooks have the right numbers in the right places but rooks not getting punished while bish and nits are.  HTC your eny idea might work for a single arena setup but is broken with your multi arena method.  And dont tell me to change countries because your squad based system does not make this possible.  For the love of god, please fix your broken eny system.

Your disgruntled customer,
Glassjaw

You clearly don't understand how the ENY works.  Not to sound mean but I really think you should take some time to understand how ENY works before making a post like this that only results in you looking rather silly.  ENY is seperate for each arena and do not affect each other.  Another thing that I would like to point out where you are again incorrect is your assertion that the squadron system does not allow for switching countries.  Last time I checked, anyone is free to switch countries regardless of squadron affiliation or not.  Now, just because you don't want to switch or your squadron forbids it is an entirely different matter and not the fault of the squadron system in the game, that blame rests squarely on your shoulders and no one elses.


ack-ack

[CAP1]

Same here...but then most of the time the ew has only 7 and the mw has only 34...what's keeping people from using them? Not enough runstang choices?

I DUNNO.

mw is (to me anyway) probably the most fun arena out of them all.

[GlassJaw]

Moot, and Ack-Ack, I'm saying the opposite… I understand that between the two main arenas, there is no ENY relationship between them and that this causes side in-balancing in the individual arenas despite balanced overall numbers.  This causes unfair ENY values  when one arena gets closed.  It is actually counter productive when hitech tries to balance between arenas. 

Let me try to explain... Hitech does temporarily close (arena is full) one arena to get the numbers up in the other.  Lets say I was flying blue as bish or nit, I'm getting hit by ENY of about 25 but Hitech actually wants me in blue since he has closed yellow.  Ideally, he actually wants more of all players in blue ie 40 of each team.  Now even if yellow had been open, my going into yellow would have helped better balance yellow but hitech really wants me in blue because he is trying to bring the population up in blue to make it playable.  But by ENYing the bish and nit in blue, he is only addressing the side issue and blue and is not taking into account the side balancing in yellow or the arena balancing he is trying to accomplish.  Yellow in this case has 30 more rooks than he wants (20 more than the bish or nits) but due to the higher total population of yellow, rooks aren’t really getting hit by eny.  So the problem in this example is that more rooks need to move to blue... not that more nit and bish need to move to yellow... all the while nits and bish are getting eny'd for being where they should be, rooks are not getting eny'd for being where they should not.  See what I mean?
He is using two different processes to address balancing and they are conflicting with each other.  The system could be made to work but ENY from one arena would need to talk to the other and as many have said, hitech needs to consider players squadmates before he locks them out of an arena when he is trying to balance two separate arenas.

Ack-Ack, we will have to agree to disagree about the squad system vs eny situation.  Being in a squad means you fight with your squad mates and not against.  It means you don’t go to another side and take back the base your squadmate just won because the other side has lower numbers.  I’ve flown with several squads and have not met one yet that would like it if I were flying against them while they were logged on.

To bronk: lemming eh?  Are we calling names now?  Kind of inflammatory for adult conversation don’t you think?

[WMLute]

Please see my thread Arena Cap Suggestion as it ties in directly to this thread.

[CAP1]

serious reply this time.


eny in the example you mentioned, isn't caused by htc though. it's caused by the lopsided number of players in that arena.

 here's a question though....and bear in mind, i know nothing of how servers work......but could the arena caps have something to do with how much information that the particular server that houses that arena can transmit and recieve, without lag problems?

 the squad i'm in now, doesn't like side switching...the one i used to be in, did it all the time.