Yes, ENY again...

[Bronk]

Moot, and Ack-Ack, I'm saying the opposite… I understand that between the two main arenas, there is no ENY relationship between them and that this causes side in-balancing in the individual arenas despite balanced overall numbers.  This causes unfair ENY values  when one arena gets closed.  It is actually counter productive when hitech tries to balance between arenas. 

Let me try to explain... Hitech does temporarily close (arena is full) one arena to get the numbers up in the other.  Lets say I was flying blue as bish or nit, I'm getting hit by ENY of about 25 but Hitech actually wants me in blue since he has closed yellow.  Ideally, he actually wants more of all players in blue ie 40 of each team.  Now even if yellow had been open, my going into yellow would have helped better balance yellow but hitech really wants me in blue because he is trying to bring the population up in blue to make it playable.  But by ENYing the bish and nit in blue, he is only addressing the side issue and blue and is not taking into account the side balancing in yellow or the arena balancing he is trying to accomplish.  Yellow in this case has 30 more rooks than he wants (20 more than the bish or nits) but due to the higher total population of yellow, rooks aren’t really getting hit by eny.  So the problem in this example is that more rooks need to move to blue... not that more nit and bish need to move to yellow... all the while nits and bish are getting eny'd for being where they should be, rooks are not getting eny'd for being where they should not.  See what I mean?
He is using two different processes to address balancing and they are conflicting with each other.  The system could be made to work but ENY from one arena would need to talk to the other and as many have said, hitech needs to consider players squadmates before he locks them out of an arena when he is trying to balance two separate arenas.

Ack-Ack, we will have to agree to disagree about the squad system vs eny situation.  Being in a squad means you fight with your squad mates and not against.  It means you don’t go to another side and take back the base your squadmate just won because the other side has lower numbers.  I’ve flown with several squads and have not met one yet that would like it if I were flying against them while they were logged on.

To bronk: lemming eh?  Are we calling names now?  Kind of inflammatory for adult conversation don’t you think?

1. NO HT doesn't want you to jump arenas. ENY is the carrot/stick to jump countries and even out number in said arena.
2. If you and your squad were so close nit. I'd think your whole squad would jump sides with out a problem. If your object is base taking can't you do that on any side? Or... is it the fantabulous 25 perk WIN TEH WAR you all are after?
3. Just calling it as I see it. If you refuse to jump sides/go to another arena  you might be looking to hide in a herd.  IMO

[CAP1]

just out of curiousity......... what exactly do those letters stand for?

[Lusche]

I often see players say they don't want to switch sides, because they are loyal. Sometimes they even do some very strange real-world comparisons.

But if your not willing to endure the "downside" of being loyal (which actually isn't really one at all) - what's this loyalty really worth you are taking so much cartoon pride in?

[Guppy35]

I often see players say they don't want to switch sides, because they are loyal. Sometimes they even do some very strange real-world comparisons.

But if your not willing to endure the "downside" of being loyal (which actually isn't really one at all) - what's this loyalty really worth you are taking so much cartoon pride in?

Great point.  I'm loyal as long as it's in my favor.  Then I want someone else to fix it

[GlassJaw]

Look bronk, I logged on this morning the the only main arena available had an eny of 25 with the numbers described in my original post.  You think thats ok?  Switching sides at a whim is not an option due to squad loyalties.  If HT didnt want people in blue then why did he shut down orange?  And I contine to take offence at being called a lemming and now apparently cattle.  Grow up.
 

1. NO HT doesn't want you to jump arenas. ENY is the carrot/stick to jump countries and even out number in said arena.
2. If you and your squad were so close nit. I'd think your whole squad would jump sides with out a problem. If your object is base taking can't you do that on any side? Or... is it the fantabulous 25 perk WIN TEH WAR you all are after?
3. Just calling it as I see it. If you refuse to jump sides/go to another arena  you might be looking to hide in a herd.  IMO

[Bronk]

Look bronk, I logged on this morning the the only main arena available had an eny of 25 with the numbers described in my original post.  You think thats ok?  Switching sides at a whim is not an option due to squad loyalties.  If HT didnt want people in blue then why did he shut down orange?  And I contine to take offence at being called a lemming and now apparently cattle.  Grow up.
 

See lusche's post above on loyalties. Take the good with the bad.

[Guppy35]

Look bronk, I logged on this morning the the only main arena available had an eny of 25 with the numbers described in my original post.  You think thats ok?  Switching sides at a whim is not an option due to squad loyalties.  If HT didnt want people in blue then why did he shut down orange?  And I contine to take offence at being called a lemming and now apparently cattle.  Grow up.
 

But the point of ENY is to level the playing field because the players will not.  Good for you that you are loyal to your squad.  I'm sorry your squad is so set in their chess piece loyalty they won't switch.  It's because of that percieved loyalty to a chess piece and that unwillingness to move, that ENY is there.

Side switching is an option.  You choose not to use it with ENY being the price you've chosen to pay.

[FireDrgn]

Please dont take this personal, because its not meant that way...

Isn't ENY just as much your squads falt as anyone else.... Some one has to switch to even it out thats a given..

Your squads mentality is the reason eny is so high in the first place...

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[Soulyss]

Being affected by ENY in any arena is the result of your decisions.  That's really all there is to it.  Call it loyalty to a squad, chess piece, whatever.  But side switching is not "impossible" anyone can do it at any time (within the time limit restrictions) the game mechanics are in place, just because you do not see it as an option is not controllable by HTC or anyone else.  ENY is the price of admission for your "loyalty". 

[newz]

ENY is the price of admission for your "loyalty". 

Sig material. Thanks.

[TwinEng]

I often see players say they don't want to switch sides, because they are loyal. Sometimes they even do some very strange real-world comparisons.

But isn't this game supposed to be realistic and historically accurate?   Or is this game supposed to be a cartoon?

If squads switched sides in WWII for real, they would have been shot when they returned home.

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[Lusche]

But isn't this game supposed to be realistic and historically accurate?   
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Simple aswer: No.

This is no simulation of WW2.

This game simulates aircraft and GVs of WW2.

You could have noticed this the moment you saw 3 sides instead of 2, and rooks, bish & knights instead of Germany, USA and United Kingdom

[moot]

"If squads switched sides in WWII for real, they would have been shot when they returned home."

I'm curious why you would figure this is true in AH?

[bmwgs]

To bronk: lemming eh?  Are we calling names now?  Kind of inflammatory for adult conversation don’t you think?

GlassJaw, you just have to excuse Bronk, he just doing his normal trolling.     

Fred

[Bronk]

GlassJaw, you just have to excuse Bronk, he just doing his normal trolling.     

Fred

Ohh look, here is a lemming now.