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« on: November 07, 2000, 11:11:00 PM »
I used these previously on another BBS but I thought you guys might enjoy trying to ID them.  I like to call them The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly.


     

     

     


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« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2000, 11:15:00 PM »
dont know the first and the last. But eh middle is a MIG-21 Fishbed.
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« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2000, 11:57:00 PM »
Um...
1.    MiG 1/3 offshoot???? (just cuz of the tail shape)

2.    Early MiG 21

3.    Blohm und Voss BV 142V2/U1 (ugly enough to be French)

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« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2000, 03:23:00 AM »
piper cub

Cessna 172

piper Seneca

damn i love 172's...

fly me couragous and have another one....

funk has the electric lettuce...what?

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« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2000, 08:44:00 AM »
The first plane seems to be of MiG lineage... very similar to the MiG 1.

The third appears to be a Blohm and Voss creation if the wings are any indication.

Of course I am at work and have no resources to check...  

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« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2000, 10:52:00 AM »
The middle one is either a Mig-21 or a Su-9, most likely a 21 because of the stabilizer under the engine.

That is the first picture I've ever seen of any of the Russian home defense fighters with the nose attenna below the intake rather then above.


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« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2000, 11:12:00 AM »
The probe in the mig 21 picture is an air data probe.  I'm just guessing that this mig was captured and tested, and the first thing they did is stick the air data probe on it, and do some testing.  Air data probes give angle of attack, slip, and dynamic pressure (indicated air speed) out ahead of the aircraft before the air can be influenced by the airframe.  I didnt catch it until i read that post though Jigster.. good eye!  


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« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2000, 11:31:00 AM »
The second a/c is a MiG-21F, NATO codenamed Fishbed C.

The probe is a pitot boom and is stock equipment on this model of 21. Here are some pics:

 

 

Ever wonder where that picture was taken?!

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« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2000, 01:26:00 PM »
 
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Ever wonder where that picture was taken

 Wow, the background sure looks like the desert north of Las Vegas.  My guess is that this is one of the "Red Hats" MiGs but I aint one to talk so you didn't hear that from me  

There is an amazingly similar gate guard (in that early MiG-21 config) at Kirtland AFB in New Mexico outside of the Tacos' (F-16 ANG Squadron) Operations building.  Officially, the Tacos PR office does not know where it came from.  

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« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2000, 01:26:00 PM »
I think the photo was taken at Groom Lake in 1967.  The project was known as "Have Donut".  I think it predated the "Red Hat" stuff.

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« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2000, 08:43:00 PM »
The first aircraft is the Bisnovat SK. It was a fighter prototype designed by Matus Bisnovat during 1939-1940.
Ref. 'Soviet Combat Aircraft of the Second World War' Volume 1, pg. 17
by Yefim Gordon and Dmitri Khazanov
ISBN #1-85780-083-4

The second aircraft is an early model MiG-21 Fishbed as already noted in the previous posts.

The third aircraft is the Blohm Und Voss BV-142 V2/U1.
Ref. 'Warplanes of the Third Reich' pg. 87
by William Green
ISBN #0-671-08160-8

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« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2000, 09:03:00 PM »
Ok.... somebody wanna enlighten me as to how the hell you can see to fly that top one?

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« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2000, 10:46:00 PM »
 
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Originally posted by Lephturn:
Ok.... somebody wanna enlighten me as to how the hell you can see to fly that top one?



Looks to me that flying that AC is strictly an IFR thing.
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« Reply #13 on: November 09, 2000, 05:22:00 AM »
err... ummm... most mid-thirties racers looked exactly the same (canopy-wise) - I have no idea how they flew them .

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« Reply #14 on: November 09, 2000, 11:28:00 AM »
How about a retracting canopy?