The Soviet set

[LLv34_Snefens]

If we ever was to have a Barbarossa scenario the main bomber needed would be the SB. It made up the majority of the bomber force by far in the beginning. But since it will be of little use later on, with the minor exception that the FAF captured enough to equip a bomber squadron, the Pe-2 would be the better allround choice.

If we ARE talking pipe-dreams, the Yer-2 should be included, for just looking so awesome with it's inverted gull-wings.

[waystin2]

But the TU-2s and Yak-3 would really solidify the Russian set as a major player in the game.

Yesssss!

[Anaxogoras]

Waystin, can you please explain the excitement over the Yak-3?  It would handle about the same as the Yak-9U, but be a little slower, have a slightly reduced climbrate, but turn a bit better.  It's like asking for a 109F-4 when you have the G-2; good to have, but if you're missing a 109E-4 and want to run a BoB scenario, the E-4 should probably come first.  The Yak-9U and Yak-3 are more or less contemporaries, but we need Russian aircraft for 1941/42/43.

I admit that if I were a huge fan of the Yak series I might share your sentiment, but from my perspective the Yak-1/1B and Lagg-3 (choose your variant) are more important for filling out the VVS planeset.

[waystin2]

Waystin, can you please explain the excitement over the Yak-3?  It would handle about the same as the Yak-9U, but be a little slower, have a slightly reduced climbrate, but turn a bit better.  It's like asking for a 109F-4 when you have the G-2; good to have, but if you're missing a 109E-4 and want to run a BoB scenario, the E-4 should probably come first.  The Yak-9U and Yak-3 are more or less contemporaries, but we need Russian aircraft for 1941/42/43.

I admit that if I were a huge fan of the Yak series I might share your sentiment, but from my perspective the Yak-1/1B and Lagg-3 (choose your variant) are more important for filling out the VVS planeset.

Hello Gavagai,

The answer is much simpler than you would think.  Ever see a car that you would love to be driving around in?  For me the Yak 3 is like that.  I think it has the awesome lines of a high end sports car.  I would fly it, because I would love to fly it.  That is the pure and simple truth Sir.  I am not worried about filling a plane set, it's use in FSO or scenarios, or it's impact in the MA's.  It's just sexy...

 

Way

[Anaxogoras]

Ok. 

[Plazus]

Yes, MiG-3 is one of the most important fighters for russian front  1941 events (like "Barbarossa" or "Battle of Moscow" etc).

I agree. I would like to fly a MiG in AH2 sometime! 

[Masherbrum]

I believe the Soviets received about 10 early-model Mustangs and tested them in combat.   Some were thought to have been repaired by the Soviets as a result of (shuttle) missions, but none of the "possibles" ever saw Front Line action.

After the "10", they were never sent anymore.  

But again, I'd rather see a MIg-3, before another Lavochkin or Yakolev. 

[Noir]

The Ilyushin DB-3 / Il-4

In the 1930s, the Soviet Union developed an advanced twin-engine medium bomber, the Ilyushin "DB-3", and put it into mass production. With the onset of World War II, the DB-3 would be developed into the improved "DB-3F" and the subsequent "Il-4", with thousands of these machines built and proving important weapons to the Soviet war effort.

 ILYUSHIN IL-4:
   _____________________   _________________   _______________________
 
   spec                    metric              english
   _____________________   _________________   _______________________

   wingspan                21.44 meters        70 feet 4 inches
   wing area               66.7 sq_meters      718 sq_feet   
   length                  14.8 meters         48 feet 7 inches
   height                  4.1 meters          13 feet 6 inches

   empty weight            5,800 kilograms     12,790 pounds
   MTO weight              11,300 kilograms    24,910 pounds

   max speed at altitude   430 KPH             270 MPH / 230 KT
   service ceiling         9,700 meters        31,825 feet
   range                   3,800 kilometers    2,360 MI / 2,055 NMI
   _____________________   _________________   _______________________

http://www.vectorsite.net/avil4.html


It looks like a great plane for events 

[Karnak]

The Yak-3 with the VK107 engine was too late to see combat in WWII.  That is the one with monster performance.  The WWII Yak-3 was powered by the VK105 engine.  It still puts out pretty good numbers, but it is nothing like the Yak-3 with a VK107.

[Nemisis]

The Ilyushin DB-3 / Il-4

It looks like a great plane for events 

Thank you. And It seems like it would be along the lines of the B-25C, and B-26B we have now, and not quite so good as the Ju88 for bombs. Meaning it would see (IMO) a lot of use in the early and midwar arenas, and decend use in the late war. I will put up a wishlist thread about this.

[Noir]

Thank you. And It seems like it would be along the lines of the B-25C, and B-26B we have now, and not quite so good as the Ju88 for bombs. Meaning it would see (IMO) a lot of use in the early and midwar arenas, and decend use in the late war. I will put up a wishlist thread about this.

both B26B and Ju88 are way superior IMO, if I believe the site I linked they had more defensive guns,  more bombs and were faster.

[Motherland]

And It seems like it would be along the lines of the (...) B-26B we have now,

The B-26 is probably the most survivable bomber in the game. The DB-3 would come no where close to it.

[Nemisis]

The B-26 is probably the most survivable bomber in the game. The DB-3 would come no where close to it.

I meant in terms of bombload, and uses.

[curry1]

Didn't the Russians copy the b-29 if we got that the people who oppose the b-29 wouldn't have to cry about it because its not technically a b-29. 

[Nemisis]

Didn't the Russians copy the b-29 if we got that the people who oppose the b-29 wouldn't have to cry about it because its not technically a b-29. 

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