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Offline Rich46yo

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The Soviet set
« on: August 22, 2009, 03:52:37 PM »
I think the Red Air Force in AH is 2 airplanes short from being a very formidable set.
The first needed is the TU-2s and the Yak-3p. You can then just skin the B-25s, B-26s, P-39s, A-20s, P-40s, heck even P-47s. No doubt we sent them gonies so skin them too.

But a set needs a good representation of home made iron. We get those two planes and I'd be ready to say I'd never fly anything the commies didnt. Well...maybe.

But the TU-2s and Yak-3 would really solidify the Russian set as a major player in the game. :salute
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Re: The Soviet set
« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2009, 03:55:12 PM »
The Soviet aircraft are already major players in the LWMA, with the La 7 and the Yak 9U. The area it's lacking in is the early/mid war set which is what I think really needs attention. The earliest Soviet aircraft we have beside the I-16 were introduced in mid/late 1943.

What would be nice would be, say a Yak 7, Yak 1, LaGG-3 or standard La-5, along with a Pe-2.... then there would be adequate coverage to run mid-war scenarios such as Stalingrad. <Awesome

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Re: The Soviet set
« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2009, 04:09:48 PM »
I-153 ftw  :noid
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Re: The Soviet set
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2009, 02:23:47 AM »
Yak-3P?

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Re: The Soviet set
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2009, 04:15:36 AM »
Although I've made this list very many times.. in the spirit of asking for a decent representation of the VVS, here it is again, the VVS planes we need:


[Yak-7A or -7B]: The most advanced fighter aircraft of the VVS in the early years of the war is considered to be the Yak-1. However, shortages in Yak-1 production initiated a plan to produce 'makeshift' fighter aircraft by using the resources allocated for producing the two-seat Yak trainer, UTI-26. From this design directly sprang the Yak-7 series, which quickly surpassed the Yak-1 in overall production numbers and practically became the two central fighters of the early days of the Eastern Front, along with the I-16.

[Yak-1B]: In 1942, the Yak-1 was refined into the next step of its evolution. Having put forth all of the major field modifications attempted to improve the still-lacking Yak-1 into a single airframe (which included a bubble canopy and a more powerful engine), the final 'standard' version came into production as the Yak-1B, a "light" Yak variant which finally could be considered a match to the German Bf109s fighting in the Eastern Front.

[LaGG-3]: While the Yakoblev Yak-1 and Yak-7 were considered as successful fighters, the Soviet attempts to produce more advanced fighter aircraft were still lagging behind. Many design teams, such as Mikoyan-Gurevich, tried to come up with a design better than the Yakblev planes, but were showing only limited results. Among them, was the Lavochkin-Gorbunov-Goudkov team, which came up with the LaGG-3. Although clearly inferior to its German adversaries, the LaGGs would form a large, interim bulk of the VVS until finally from its lineage the La-5 would evolve.

[Yak-9]: Just as the "light" Yak-1 would evolve into the Yak-1B, the "heavy" Yaks of the VVS - the Yak-7 series - would also be refined into the Yak-9, which quickly became the most numerous Yak version in 1943. In the latter days, this Yak-9 would reach the peak of its war-time evolution as the Yak-9U.

[La-5]: The immediate predecessor to the greatly successful La-5FN, the La-5 was a large modification and refinement of the LaGG-3, which in this form, finally began to show great potential. After the engine was switched to the Shvetsov ASh-82 radial, along with the appropriate design changes to accomodate for the new engine, the old LaGG design finally sprang to life. The La-5 would come to represent the middle point (and at the same time, the turning point) in the evolution of the LaGG line of designs, which would finally bloom into the most excellent La-5FN and the La-7.


... add these five planes to the current roster consisting of I-16, Yak-9T, Yak-9U, La-5FN and La-7 - a total of 10 fighter planes which would definately complete the most representative VVS fighter roster of the period between 1941 and 1945.
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Re: The Soviet set
« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2009, 11:12:48 AM »
I'm always interested in deployment dates, and production numbers as well for our events. Anyone have data to go along that?
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Re: The Soviet set
« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2009, 07:34:04 PM »
Would really like to see the Yak-3, just the regular version.
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Re: The Soviet set
« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2009, 10:48:32 PM »
Mig-3 would be a better addition than another Yak or the LaGG-3.
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Re: The Soviet set
« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2009, 11:29:48 PM »
I'm always interested in deployment dates, and production numbers as well for our events. Anyone have data to go along that?

Production numbers:

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Re: The Soviet set
« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2009, 11:47:47 PM »
Mig-3 would be a better addition than another Yak or the LaGG-3.

Yes, MiG-3 is one of the most important fighters for russian front  1941 events (like "Barbarossa" or "Battle of Moscow" etc).

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Re: The Soviet set
« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2009, 12:24:43 AM »
Tu-2 would be nice then we wouldnt have to sub in B25C's
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Re: The Soviet set
« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2009, 01:19:36 AM »
Very nice, and hard to find Aper, Thanks! I'm discovering the Eastern front is the most interesting. Is the source for that material available? I'd like to check it out if there's more where that came from.

Thanks again.  :salute
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Re: The Soviet set
« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2009, 01:56:59 AM »
Lagg-3 FTW.
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Re: The Soviet set
« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2009, 03:01:26 AM »
I double dog dare the VVS to get their Yak numbers straight.
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Re: The Soviet set
« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2009, 04:11:31 AM »
Very nice, and hard to find Aper, Thanks! I'm discovering the Eastern front is the most interesting. Is the source for that material available? I'd like to check it out if there's more where that came from.

Thanks again.  :salute

There are tons of info about soviet aircraft production during the WWII nowadays  but you need to be able to translate from Russian into English to get the most detailed and interesting data from it. Anyway you can try these books - there ara lots of photos, drawings and tables there. For example:
http://www.wuala.com/-aper-/AH/MiG-3%20Fighter.pdf
http://www.wuala.com/-aper-/AH/I-153%20Fighter.pdf