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Offline detch01

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Spixteen Wish...(Just for a month)
« on: August 24, 2009, 06:38:58 PM »
Forthe entertainment value alone.... take the perks off the SpitXIV and put them on the XVI (call it a typo if you need to).





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Re: Spixteen Wish...(Just for a month)
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2009, 06:54:48 PM »
It would be nice to see the outcome of this change.
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Re: Spixteen Wish...(Just for a month)
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2009, 07:10:09 PM »
It would be nice to see the outcome of this change.


You would see less Spit 16s.... no need to give it a try to know this.


Forthe entertainment value alone.... take the perks off the SpitXIV and put them on the XVI (call it a typo if you need to).
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If it's for entertainment value alone - take the perks off the Tempest and put them on the P-51?
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Re: Spixteen Wish...(Just for a month)
« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2009, 10:41:27 PM »
If it's for entertainment value alone - take the perks off the Tempest and put them on the P-51?
:aok I'd buy that too.
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Re: Spixteen Wish...(Just for a month)
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2009, 03:22:20 PM »

If it's for entertainment value alone - take the perks off the Tempest and put them on the Bf-109K4?

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Re: Spixteen Wish...(Just for a month)
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2009, 03:42:39 PM »
Let's hold a giant dueling tourney with all the big "name" sticks fighting it out in every combination of fighter type imaginable, then perk/ENY the airplanes accordingly.

Only fly in the ointment I can see, Aces High version XXI would probably out by the time sufficient testing iterations of all possible combinations had been performed.
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Re: Spixteen Wish...(Just for a month)
« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2009, 03:53:00 PM »
I'm not trying to sound condescending, but again, I don't understand why the Spit XVI aggravates so many people.  If someone could explain this to me, I'd be obliged.
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Re: Spixteen Wish...(Just for a month)
« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2009, 04:03:30 PM »
I have seen the light. I love the Spit 16.
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Re: Spixteen Wish...(Just for a month)
« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2009, 04:08:05 PM »
I have no problem with people flying Spit 16s, at least they will usually give you a fight. Its all the boring stat warriors in their bnz rides that spoil the game for me. What people fly isn't really the issue, its how they fly.

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Re: Spixteen Wish...(Just for a month)
« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2009, 04:09:01 PM »
I'm not trying to sound condescending, but again, I don't understand why the Spit XVI aggravates so many people.  If someone could explain this to me, I'd be obliged.

Compared to a large chunk of the plane set, it is as fast or faster while simultaneously offering better maneuverability in turn and roll, and greater (usually much greater) E building performance, while possessing no tremendous weaknesses to offset these great strengths, such as a terrible gun package (gun package is actually one of the most lethal), bad dive handling, horrendous views, etc. Same problem as the La7...it just has too much strength in ACM (in a game that is supposed to be about fighter ACM) compared to too large a % of the other unperked planes.
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Re: Spixteen Wish...(Just for a month)
« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2009, 04:14:30 PM »
And that's why it has ENY 5. No need to reduce 16 numbers further by perking it.

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Re: Spixteen Wish...(Just for a month)
« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2009, 04:15:39 PM »
Compared to a large chunk of the plane set, it is as fast or faster while simultaneously offering better maneuverability in turn and roll, and greater (usually much greater) E building performance, while possessing no tremendous weaknesses to offset these great strengths, such as a terrible gun package (gun package is actually one of the most lethal), bad dive handling, horrendous views, etc. Same problem as the La7...it just has too much strength in ACM (in a game that is supposed to be about fighter ACM) compared to too large a % of the other unperked planes.
And despite all your blathering about it, it continues to neither dominate numerically nor in effectiveness.
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Re: Spixteen Wish...(Just for a month)
« Reply #12 on: August 26, 2009, 04:30:23 PM »
No changes needed to Spitfire Mk. XVI Status HTC.  Carry on. 

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Re: Spixteen Wish...(Just for a month)
« Reply #13 on: August 26, 2009, 04:38:06 PM »
And despite all your blathering about it, it continues to neither dominate numerically nor in effectiveness.

And, we are of the opinion that this can't be caused by the numerous variables that aren't taken into account when pulling these statistics judging 'effectiveness', that we should ignore the performance numbers, and that anyone who tries to make a point contrary to this are all blatantly nubs and should 'lol lrn to fight spits'.

Edit: For clarity, it has been proven time in and time out that plane performance has absolutely no impact on use or effectiveness in the MA, see P38 J/L.
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Re: Spixteen Wish...(Just for a month)
« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2009, 04:51:04 PM »
Let's hold a giant dueling tourney with all the big "name" sticks fighting it out in every combination of fighter type imaginable, then perk/ENY the airplanes accordingly.

Only fly in the ointment I can see, Aces High version XXI would probably out by the time sufficient testing iterations of all possible combinations had been performed.

1v1 fights don't take into all the contingencies of Eny though.  Take for example, the Bf110G2 eny 10.