spitfire XIV

[Lusche]

I took the 14 as my main ride for a tour earlier this year. Got 230 kills in it, but I found it somewhet arduous and more difficult to score (and survive) in it than you would expect from a "perk" ride.

[thrila]

I'm flying it a lot myself this tour.  I hoped it would see more usage since the fuel bug was fixed, but it's proving not to be the case.

[Anaxogoras]

I'm flying it a lot myself this tour.  I hoped it would see more usage since the fuel bug was fixed, but it's proving not to be the case.

Because there's no improvement whatsoever in its handling.  I was flying last night and the nose wobbles all over the place worse than any other plane in the game.

[thrila]

I believe that was some improvement to the spit 14's nose oscillations (though this could be a post-patch placebo i'm experiencing).

What has improved is it's ability to hold it's nose high, at low speed, without having to worry about entering a deep stall all the way to the ground.  It can still be a handful at low speeds, especially if the throttle is used aggressively or the engine is at idle. 

[RTHolmes]

Currently only 18 people have scored 10 or more kills in the spit14 this tour.

hello

how did you find this stat?

[Lusche]

Go to the scores & stats page.

Select "plane" under "individual statistics".

Wait for the list to load. Then klick on the plane name.

For a current tour, you will see only kills, if you check completed tours, you will also see the players deaths & K/D

[thrila]

aww lusche beat me to it, i deleted most of my post.

Last tour the tempest and spit14 had a similar number of individuals who flew them (around 650 each). Unsurprisingly the tempest had a much greater number of kills and k/d.

[jdbecks]

I believe that was some improvement to the spit 14's nose oscillations (though this could be a post-patch placebo i'm experiencing).

What has improved is it's ability to hold it's nose high, at low speed, without having to worry about entering a deep stall all the way to the ground.  It can still be a handful at low speeds, especially if the throttle is used aggressively or the engine is at idle. 

Im keeping my german iron away from your spit 14

[RTHolmes]

nice, never seen the plane stats before

looks like less than 10 that fly it regularly, and thrila has >20% of all XIV kills

[Lusche]

nice, never seen the plane stats before

looks like less than 10 that fly it regularly, and thrila has >20% of all XIV kills

You can see such effect with almost all those non-mainstream rides. Someone flying such a plane can easily manage to get a huge percentage of total kills.
I managed myself to skew several plane's K/D's in the past: 109F-4 & G-2, Hurricane I, Spit XiV, Ta 152

I think there was a tour where m00t & Grizz got something like 40% of all Ta 152H kills

[Krusty]

Imagine an AH with no spit16, no spit8 (nearly identical, those two). Now look at this late-war spit that climbs almost 5000feet per minute. It zooms like almost no other plane in the game, can climb like a 163 (probably better at certain alts!), and has 2 hizookas and 2 50cals.

Now tell me why it would NOT be perked?!?!?

Then introduce a spit16 that can match this climb rate, this armament, but also surpasses it in turning, handling, and roll rate.


The question isn't "why is the 14 perked" -- but "why isn't the 16?"


EDIT: As a follow-up, the handling alone isn't grounds to unperk something. The potential is there, just don't screw up when you fly it. Same goes for a 262. Same goes for a Tempest. Same goes for a Chog.

[Lusche]

I think this topic is has gotten a bit beyond the scope of help & training...

[Krusty]

Well, I thought about it and added my second comment there... It's like flying a 262, a tempest.

You don't fly it like a spitfire, and you'll rack the kills up. Ignore the name of the plane, and pay attention to how it flies, and anybody can do well in it.

[Lusche]

Sorry that's simplistic and not all that right.

The XiV HAS serious handling issues and is a difficult plane. The Tempest not so.

[Karnak]

Imagine an AH with no spit16, no spit8 (nearly identical, those two). Now look at this late-war spit that climbs almost 5000feet per minute. It zooms like almost no other plane in the game, can climb like a 163 (probably better at certain alts!), and has 2 hizookas and 2 50cals.

Now tell me why it would NOT be perked?!?!?

Then introduce a spit16 that can match this climb rate, this armament, but also surpasses it in turning, handling, and roll rate.


The question isn't "why is the 14 perked" -- but "why isn't the 16?"


EDIT: As a follow-up, the handling alone isn't grounds to unperk something. The potential is there, just don't screw up when you fly it. Same goes for a 262. Same goes for a Tempest. Same goes for a Chog.

You're being ridiculous.   The Spitfire Mk XVI's stats make it extremely obvious to all but the fanatically anti-Spitfire posters why it isn't perked.  Your comment above equates much, much more accurately to the conclusion "Why is the Spitfire F.Mk XIVe perked?"