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Re: PSA Texting while Driving
« Reply #45 on: August 26, 2009, 01:23:26 PM »
All that is for moot if they don't make other things illegal too. Eating, putting on make-yup, and such.
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Re: PSA Texting while Driving
« Reply #46 on: August 26, 2009, 02:46:30 PM »
I'm sorry but I believe there is only one answer. Not to ban cell phones, but the second you activate one, answer an incoming call, or send and outgoing call your car engine dies, or tranny locks into neutral  and your forced to pull over.

It's certainly possible. There are devices you can wear on your wrist that tells you when the phone's ringing, so there's certainly a way to tell when one is activated (by the change in EM output). They can be sensitive enough to not trigger over anyone else's phones in the car as well.

Brilliant... I can see the pileups now.

Good. Because a teen seeing a pileup in their mind, knowing that as soon as that phone flips open, they're helpless, is much more effective than "Eh, I might get into a wreck, but there's a 5 star crash rating in effect" or "I've done this a million times and nothing's gone wrong yet."
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Re: PSA Texting while Driving
« Reply #47 on: August 26, 2009, 02:51:41 PM »
How many hundreds or thousands of dollars do they spend staging elaborate "crashes" around high schools these days with Police, EMT's, fire trucks, and even helicopters landing to show the consequences of drinking and driving?

How many people from 16-25 do you know that drink and drive?

Forgive my skepticism, but I don't see how airing this is going to accomplish much besides turning the stomachs of those who've lost someone in a crash.

But I guess if it stops even one...
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Re: PSA Texting while Driving
« Reply #48 on: August 26, 2009, 02:56:28 PM »
Those "mock crashes" are a joke. I'm not one who's ever used any sort of substance, but I can tell you that going out into the field to have tarps unveil barely damaged vehicles with a few people with makeup strewn about and a smoke machine kick off isn't an impact at all. Most of us were just waiting for the medevac chopper to land, and even that was called off last year.

I must admit, they had a rather decent slideshow afterward, but nothing that could overcome the "Well, it hasn't happened to me" feeling of the idiots that get sloshed and bombed around here.
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Re: PSA Texting while Driving
« Reply #49 on: August 26, 2009, 04:48:28 PM »
Those "mock crashes" are a joke. I'm not one who's ever used any sort of substance, but I can tell you that going out into the field to have tarps unveil barely damaged vehicles with a few people with makeup strewn about and a smoke machine kick off isn't an impact at all. Most of us were just waiting for the medevac chopper to land, and even that was called off last year.

I must admit, they had a rather decent slideshow afterward, but nothing that could overcome the "Well, it hasn't happened to me" feeling of the idiots that get sloshed and bombed around here.

AROUND HERE(PRNJ) they bring some seriously FUBAR'd cars to the highschools. like the kind that make you wonder if anyone survived the wreck.
 sterling highscool puts it right out on the front lawn of the school...usually for about a month.
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Re: PSA Texting while Driving
« Reply #50 on: August 26, 2009, 06:50:21 PM »
Good. Because a teen seeing a pileup in their mind, knowing that as soon as that phone flips open, they're helpless, is much more effective than "Eh, I might get into a wreck, but there's a 5 star crash rating in effect" or "I've done this a million times and nothing's gone wrong yet."

Why not just place a grenade under the driver's seat that goes off if a cell phone is used in the car... Get real. The point is to save lives.
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Re: PSA Texting while Driving
« Reply #51 on: August 26, 2009, 06:54:21 PM »
Lets really save some lives... ban the wheel.  :noid
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Re: PSA Texting while Driving
« Reply #52 on: August 26, 2009, 07:02:57 PM »
nj has outlawed cell phone use, unless using hands free device......but they're considering outlawing them too.


they once had billboards along rt 295 with a phone number to call from your cell to report people talking on their cells. and i'm not kidding.


 the police i also see on cell phones a LOT

What gets me the most is that when you invite people into your car, each person is ideally one hands free cell phone, so we should outlaw riders in the car while we are at it.
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Re: PSA Texting while Driving
« Reply #53 on: August 26, 2009, 07:20:02 PM »
What gets me the most is that when you invite people into your car, each person is ideally one hands free cell phone, so we should outlaw riders in the car while we are at it.

technically speaking, there is a difference here.

just as in an aircraft, each extra person in your car, is one extra set of eyes.


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Re: PSA Texting while Driving
« Reply #54 on: August 27, 2009, 04:16:26 AM »
That's right! Passengers have saved my bacon several times by alerting me to dangers that I had somehow missed. That said, they have also distracted me a lot.
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Re: PSA Texting while Driving
« Reply #55 on: August 27, 2009, 06:15:59 AM »
Closest I've ever gotten to wrecks were traffic, and not phones.

Worst for me was, I was goin 30, down main street in town, about 2 PM, street's packed, some trailblazer trying to make a left pulls out RIGHT in front of me, and I slam on the breaks, and fishtail around him...

handsomehunk then got clipped by a F-150. Everyone was okay though. The reason was? He didn't look both ways again and again for that left.

My best friend, Joe, has half of his face, metal. Why? Because 1, someone was going 70 in a 45, and 2, he didn't look both ways again and again making a left.

Have yet to find anyone who got in a wreck talking on the phone.
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Re: PSA Texting while Driving
« Reply #56 on: August 27, 2009, 07:56:50 AM »
Closest I've ever gotten to wrecks were traffic, and not phones.

Worst for me was, I was goin 30, down main street in town, about 2 PM, street's packed, some trailblazer trying to make a left pulls out RIGHT in front of me, and I slam on the breaks, and fishtail around him...

handsomehunk then got clipped by a F-150. Everyone was okay though. The reason was? He didn't look both ways again and again for that left.

My best friend, Joe, has half of his face, metal. Why? Because 1, someone was going 70 in a 45, and 2, he didn't look both ways again and again making a left.

Have yet to find anyone who got in a wreck talking on the phone.

the majority of the accidents i see around here are:

1) driver "daydreaming. they're sitting behind the wheel, and sorta pointing the car in a direction, and are looking our the window, but they're not "seeing" what's happening. i call these people passengers in the wrong seat. they're the ones that'll normally rear end ya.

2)teens. mostly girls...and not all girls, but attractive ones. it's like they were cut slack in the driving school, because they're cute. no one really took the time to REALLY teach them to drive. no one took the time to teach the majority of todays teens to REALLY drive......especially not in bad weather.
 a customers daughter rear ended a van. wanna guess whaqt the first words out of her mouth to us were? "the anti-lock didn't work!" 

3) moms in suv's with a bunch o kids in the back. they're usually fairly distracted, due to the misbehaving kids.

4) people with "gottagetthereittis". while this can be fatal in an airplane, in cars, it usually just creates a really big mess, when that person just can't wait those extra few seconds before turning, or pulling out in front of that tractor trailer doing 50mph(and they seem to think that 80k pounds can stop on a dime.). they also seem to feel the need to "hammer" the throttle from 1/4 mile back to beat that traffic light. there was one like that in front of my shop. the girl(cute blonde) going north, driving her mustang gt hammered it, to run the light. she was doing nearly 50(speed limit 40) when she hit the car going south(another young girl) that had accelerated  to get through the light.....she was making a left turn, and was on the brakes when the gt hit her. they landed up in the field about 100 ft from the intersection.  the girl was trapped in the mustang till rescue crews got here.

 these are the majority of the types of accidents i see around here. while i see people talking on their cells and wandering in lane slightly, i haven't seen one cause an accident yet.
 i've nearly been hit by women putting on makeup. i've nearly been hit by drunks. in fact, i followed one particularly bad one, as i called 911.

someone had said that if you can't talk, and drive at the same time, then you should give up the keys. they are right.


 
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Re: PSA Texting while Driving
« Reply #57 on: August 27, 2009, 10:59:55 PM »
the ability to disable a cell phone when the car is over 10mph is here now. I have no doubt it will mandatory soon.

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Re: PSA Texting while Driving
« Reply #58 on: August 28, 2009, 02:35:36 AM »
Why not just place a grenade under the driver's seat that goes off if a cell phone is used in the car... Get real. The point is to save lives.

I don't mind that idea. I'm sure it'd make 'em think about it a bit more.
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Re: PSA Texting while Driving
« Reply #59 on: August 28, 2009, 07:34:45 AM »
It's certainly possible. There are devices you can wear on your wrist that tells you when the phone's ringing, so there's certainly a way to tell when one is activated (by the change in EM output). They can be sensitive enough to not trigger over anyone else's phones in the car as well.

Good. Because a teen seeing a pileup in their mind, knowing that as soon as that phone flips open, they're helpless, is much more effective than "Eh, I might get into a wreck, but there's a 5 star crash rating in effect" or "I've done this a million times and nothing's gone wrong yet."

in all honesty, the majority of todays teens will not think that. they'll more likely think " i can get away with it this once".

 and then because they never had proper emergency training, they'll crash.
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