That's not exactly what I see it as. Agent, you sure complicate things. lol To me a fake rope is going up, then the con noses down so he can have speed to nose up at you as you come down from the rope. But instead of continuing up, you pull essentially a hard yoyo for a rear quarter or 6 shot. simple
Theres nothing fake about it if the con spots your move. Its just a simple counter. The con nosing down and coming back up is not part of the plan. This is what I am trying to avoid.
I can understand your confusion. We have totally different flying styles.
The fake rope is a verticle maneuver that results in an overshoot (yes I said overshoot). A classic rope does not. A classic rope relies on depleting the bandits energy, forcing him to roll over before you do. You get your shot by nosing over to guns before he can get away. That is not an overshoot.
The fake rope relies on using the verticle climb to force a bandit into a nose up turn allowing you to pinch the turn higher and drop to his high side or catch him on a scissor reversal.
Mtman's post above is exactly what I am trying to avoid. A bandit who spots the rope and sets up a planned counter. If I pull a fake rope correctly the bandit will stay in lag pursuit nose up.
Allowing the bandit to counter the rope is too time consuming. Especially zeeks and the like.
If I am dealing with a similar plane in turn and speed I can just do standard overshoots.
But dealing with zeeks and so forth requires a little more cunning than normal. That is if you want to catch them quick.
There is no need for any roping if you have speed and position over slower better turning plane. Just BZ em to death.
However if you are in the mood for a little "ownage" the fake rope works pretty well.
BTW, I have all kinds of fake moves. I could probably cause the whole AH traing core to freak out if I started posting them. I am sure they spend enough time convincing the students not to follow Agents crazy advice...LOL
The correct term is really a "feint". Showing the enemy a maneuver that draws him into an attack. Then you roll in from the flank and kaaaablaaaaammm.
From "
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feint"
Feint is a French term that entered English from the discipline of fencing. Feints are maneuvers designed to distract or mislead, done by giving the impression that a certain maneuver will take place, while in fact another, or even none, will. In military tactics and many types of combat, there are two types of feints: feint attacks and feint retreats.
A feint attack is designed to draw defensive action towards the point under assault. It is usually used as a diversion to force the enemy to concentrate more manpower in a given area so that the opposing force in another area is weaker. Unlike a related diversionary maneuver, the demonstration, a feint involves actual contact with the enemy.
A feint retreat is performed by briefly engaging the enemy, then retreating. It is intended to draw the enemy pursuit into a prepared ambush, or to cause disarray. For example, the Anglo-Saxon downfall to the Norman invasion was instigated by this tactic where the dominant shield wall of the Saxons broke in pursuit of the Norman cavalry. This forfeited the advantage of height (as the Saxons were positioned on a hill-top) and the line was broken, providing the opportunity to fight in single handed combat on a neutral vantage point, a battle for which the Saxons were not ready.
The Parthian shot is another example of a feint retreat, where mounted Parthian archers would retreat from a battle and then, while still riding, turn their bodies back to shoot at the pursuing enemy.
A kool quote:
You wound, like Parthians, while you fly, And kill with a retreating eye.
—Samuel Butler, An Heroical Epistle of Hudibras to His Lady (1678)[1]
