Try this in an Airbus!

[Die Hard]

All aircraft are structurally capable of doing a 1G barrel roll; if done right it stresses the aircraft no more than level flight. the B707 pilot said so himself in the original video. No Boeing or Airbus will ever do that again and the 707 pilot got a WTF are you doing from his boss. Didn't any of you see the original video? Don't any of you know what a 1G barrel roll is? The stewardesses can continue to poor the champagne during a 1G barrel roll. Do you think Airbus makes their simulators behave differently from the real aircraft? That would be stupid, and thinking they would do so is silly.

[Ack-Ack]

All aircraft are structurally capable of doing a 1G barrel roll; if done right it stresses the aircraft no more than level flight. the B707 pilot said so himself in the original video. No Boeing or Airbus will ever do that again and the 707 pilot got a WTF are you doing from his boss. Didn't any of you see the original video? Don't any of you know what a 1G barrel roll is? The stewardesses can continue to poor the champagne during a 1G barrel roll. Do you think Airbus makes their simulators behave differently from the real aircraft? That would be stupid, and thinking they would do so is silly.

People like you crack me up, you're wrong.  You have failed to show that an Airbus can do a barrel roll in real life and you're just pathetically trying to spin your way out of it anyway you can.  Too bad you're miserably failing at that too.

You may go now and sit in the back of the class and be sure to wear that Dunce cap.


ack-ack

[Die Hard]

This is how difficult a 1G barrel roll is in a commercial aircraft: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGprpxA0Q8M

Here's Bob Hoover poring the ice tea himself while piloting dead-stick: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZBcapxGHjE

1G. You don't think an Airbus can take 1G? Silly.

[Ack-Ack]

This is how difficult a 1G barrel roll is in a commercial aircraft: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGprpxA0Q8M

Here's Bob Hoover poring the ice tea himself while piloting dead-stick: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZBcapxGHjE

1G. You don't think an Airbus can take 1G? Silly.

Are you really this obtuse in real life or do you just play one?  Neither of those are commercial jumbo jet aircraft and don't prove your argument at all and further points to your utter failure to do so.  Keep reaching for that rainbow, it's providing us a lot of amusement.


ack-ack

[Golfer]

A couple facts:

How many airplanes did Tex Johnston supervise as head of flight test for Boeing after his little "I'm selling airplanes" bit?  You can count the number on no fingers and although he was ace of the base (if you were to ask him he'd tell you so) he was not there for the 727, 737 and 747 for a reason.

Hoover was not deadstick during his iced tea roll.

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My assumption was another link of the 707 prototype being rolled.

The 1900 crew should be dragged out behind a hangar and beaten with a shovel.  Not only for doing it but for taping it.  Not only for taping it but sharing it.  Not only for sharing it but for having it placed on Youtube.  Then again for doing it in the first place.

[Die Hard]

Hoover was not deadstick during his iced tea roll.

Oh? I missed that. Great pilot skills anyway.

[Golfer]

Oh? I missed that. Great pilot skills anyway.

I suppose you would.  The way the airplane was behaving and its attitude notwithstanding the phrase "Secretary of the Air Force and a plane full of Generals" should allow one to garnish enough information that the engines available were in fact making noise.

While I can't say for certain and personally I doubt that video was made with said passengers on board regardless the airplane in the video is certainly operating with power.

[Die Hard]

Are you really this obtuse in real life or do you just play one?  Neither of those are commercial jumbo jet aircraft and don't prove your argument at all and further points to your utter failure to do so.  Keep reaching for that rainbow, it's providing us a lot of amusement.


ack-ack

Well, technically the B707 isn't a "jumbo jet" either. How little you know.

Keep the insults coming; they bounce right off.  

[Die Hard]

I suppose you would.  The way the airplane was behaving and its attitude notwithstanding the phrase "Secretary of the Air Force and a plane full of Generals" should allow one to garnish enough information that the engines available were in fact making noise.

While I can't say for certain and personally I doubt that video was made with said passengers on board regardless the airplane in the video is certainly operating with power.

There isn't more noise in the "ice tea" cockpit footage than in the earlier cockpit shots. In any case the B707 isn't anything special, a 1G barrel roll is within the structural capabilities of all commercial aircraft.

[Die Hard]

The 1900 crew should be dragged out behind a hangar and beaten with a shovel.  Not only for doing it but for taping it.  Not only for taping it but sharing it.  Not only for sharing it but for having it placed on Youtube.  Then again for doing it in the first place.

Did they do something illegal?

[Die Hard]

If you had watched the second clip I posted you'd know that by pushing two buttons (shutting down two computers) the pilot can get direct law control over the ailerons and alternate law over the elevators, thus being able to barrel roll the aircraft. Of course, any pilot doing that in a real Airbus would not be a pilot for long. The bank angle limit of the A320 with normal law is 67 degrees; you'd know that too if you had watched the first clip I posted.

They don't make a roll-eye smiley big enough for you.

Switching off the computers (and there are seven of them) would not result in direct law, but mechanical reversion. Direct law results if you did switch off some of the computers, and also if certain combinations of them fail, or certain components in the plane. Lesser failures result in Alternate law. There are switches on the overhead panel for all seven computers.

If ALL the computers failed (or were switched off), you still have cable control of the rudders as mentioned above for lateral control, and also cable control of the stabilizer trim through the trim wheel for vertical control.

I am an A320/319 pilot for America West, and they make us go through that scenario during training. It's a pain in the prettythang to control, but it can be done.

Maybe you should reserve that particular smiley for yourself...

[Golfer]

Did they do something illegal?

Yes.

[Golfer]

Maybe you should reserve that particular smiley for yourself...

Referencing your attitude.  You don't have the first piece of first hand experience.  For what it's worth I never said whether an Airbus could or couldn't do a roll.  I have my own opinion and it will stay such.

[Die Hard]

Fair enough... Your own attitude could do with a bit of adjusting too. Falling off your high horse at that altitude can be lethal.


Furthermore you have no idea what I have first hand experience in doing.

[eagl]

Furthermore you have no idea what I have first hand experience in doing.

Oh crap, Voss is back.  Run!