Perk it!

[ToeTag]

This isn't unusual at all.  Ive gotten as many as 7 MG kills in one sortie.  Get under a bridge at a base with ords being down.  I-L2's come flying in at low angles to get at you under the bridge.  400 to 600 out let loose the MG and boom.     In my opinion it's just like hitting a tank at 400 to 600 out.

[guncrasher]

just get behind a hill ( i actually had 2 hills to my fron and right and some trees in back of me), my personal best is 9 kills with mg from a panzer always aim right for the pilot and dont be shy, pull the trigger and walk your runs right into the pilot/engine , I was having so much fun that I actually never fire my main gun, lol.  I think i got 6 or 7 il2 and a couple of fiters.

semp

[hlbly]

I don't know how to fix it . I am how ever saying it is beyond unrealistic . I think the way to fix it would be the optics .

[stroker71]

I don't know how to fix it . I am how ever saying it is beyond unrealistic . I think the way to fix it would be the optics .

A better fix would come in at a higher AOA so they can't get the main gun on ya!    It's as much the attackers fault as the defender.  If someone gave you an opportunity to kill them wouldn't you?

DuHasst

[Dream Child]

The cannons were not synchronized, so firing more than a couple shells at a time would cause so much lopsided recoil as to make holding your aim impossible.  Firing more than a couple shells at a time also lead to frequent jamming, so much so that the 23mm cannon was preferred.  We don't need jamming in AH, but unsynchronizing the 37mm cannons so that recoil spoils aim when you simply hold the trigger down would be good.

I give. What does synchronized firing of the IL-2 have to do with rate of fire of the WW?

[Dream Child]

90% of that ease comes from the way the planes attack the tanks. You have to fly at very close range right into the gun barrel to be hit. And "real"  WW2 tank gunners had never the opportunity to practice such a (to them) once-in-a-lifetime opportunity several dozen times per month.

Several dozen times a month? I was thinking more like several dozen times a day...I personally love airplanes that do low level strafing runs at my tank.

[Dream Child]

Wow I wouldn't believe you said this had I not read it for myself . Exactly how do you think they should be able to HIT a flying plane ? If they could don't you think that an AA round would be part of standard load for MBT ? Do you think that a tank main gun can even track one ? Do you think that the optics are designed to do this ? The question is not if the round could damage a plane it is could it even come close ? Almost as ridiculous as the 4.2 inch AA rounds developed for mortars . Yes the chain in the round and the blast could have an effect . It is just not probable that they could be made to intentionally share the same air space .

Have you ever observed how large a target an airplane at 400 yards coming straight down the turret is?

[Dream Child]

The other side to the argument is pretty convincing though.  Sure, it never happened in WW2, but how often did a plane fly on the deck directly staring down the barrel of a turret trying to suicide strafe the tank?  I doubt that happened in WW2 either.  Surely tanks were strafed, but I'm sure a much higher degree of caution was taken.  Both scenarios are highly unlikely in reality, but make for some fun matchups in the game IMO.

Incorrect, sir. It DID happen in WWII.

[Dream Child]

Grizz my friend I don't care what angle is used where attack comes from . The optics and Traverse and elevation systems on tanks cant do it . You cant acquire and you can't track an A/C . This is not theoretical knowledge on my part .

So you drove WWII era tanks? May I suggest that the sights were a little more primitive than what we use now.

[grizz441]

Incorrect, sir. It DID happen in WWII.

Once?  Beside the point.  It's unrealistic like hlbly is saying but so is planes flying that low on suicide strafing runs.  The whole scenario is unrealistic, but my point was, I don't care because it is fun.

[Saxman]

DC,

You DO realize you can put multiple quotes in one post, right?

[APDrone]

I don't know how to fix it . I am how ever saying it is beyond unrealistic . I think the way to fix it would be the optics .

So what do you propose?  

I have seen it mentioned that the main gun optics incorporated a focussing mechanism. When the target was in focus, you had a pretty accurate distance to target by looking at the sight meter ( much akin, I would surmise, to the distance marks on a camera lens).  

So.. the image through the gunsight would have to be blurry until you focussed the sight to remove the blur.  Even while not in focus, however, the target would be a blur of some type ( unless well hidden with skin and gound effects ).  As long as this blur exists, the gun can be pointed at it.  Unless you're talking about extreme ranges, the target won't be transparent.

So.. we've got a gunsight that calibrates distance based on focal point.  Oh goody.  Now, when I see an aircraft coming at me, I'm going to swing around.. get him in the sight, set my calibration to 400 yards and wait for him to almost be in focus.. fire.. and, suddenly, my AA accuracy has increased exponentially.

Now.. that may be complete malarky. Sounds plausible to me, however.

Bottom line.. don't fly down the barrel of a tank.

<edit>  After consideration.. how pronounced would the non-focussed blur be? I'm recalling how my macro lens can't pick out details enough to discern a target until the focussing mechanism gets close.  How fine are the optics of a tank sight?  If they are as sensitive as camera lenses, it may be a  challenge to even find a GV in the clutter. 

[Dream Child]

DC,

You DO realize you can put multiple quotes in one post, right?

You DO realize I was reading down through the entire list and responding to individual posts as I came to them, right?

[Plazus]

Dont perk the WW because I want to give my B-38 something to drop my bombs on!  

[oakranger]

Dont perk the WW because I want to give my B-38 something to drop my bombs on!  

Perk it or perk your B-38.