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Offline BigPlay

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Re: What to get: 2006 Z06 or 2006 911 S?
« Reply #165 on: September 03, 2009, 10:55:31 AM »
Mmm...

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my friend has one....... worst interior of all the trucks.

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Re: What to get: 2006 Z06 or 2006 911 S?
« Reply #166 on: September 03, 2009, 10:55:40 AM »
Good point, although I would argue that their target markets do overlap to a certain extent... thus the point of this thread - a potential buyer trying to choose between one of these two....

Ummm I really don't see that much overlap, maybe between Porsche and Ferrari or Ferrari and Lambos. You either like or want European engineering and quality or you don't . I know a handful of guys with Ferrari's and a bunch with Porsche's and not many are interested in American V-8 powered cars say with exception of the GT40.


True, not many "hardcore fans" of a particular marque are gonna be willing to go outside of their area of interest and buy something that doesn't fit their formula. The "overlap" of their target markets is certainly small, but it does exist (hence this entire thread), otherwise all the magazine comparisons would be pointless. The difference in price between Ferrari and Porsche / Corvette is enough that I would say that, just based on $$$, the Porsche is a lot more likely to be balanced a Vette than it is against a Ferrari, at least when it comes to cars like the Boxster, Cayman, and base 911. Now, if someone is looking at a GT3, then yeh, they're not a typical Corvette buyer.... that car is gonna be a heads-up "nail biter" decision versus a Ferrari....although they'd be a fool to not at least look at a ZR1.

You'll also see that GM is really pushing to expand their market appeal for the Vette in Europe, hence the involvement in Le Mans and factory support for the ELMS and European GT1 teams running the C6R GT1 racecar. Their efforts haven't gone unnoticed as there is quite a Corvette following in Europe (at least compared to years ago)... ironically probably a lot moreso than there is in the People's Republic of California....  :)
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Re: What to get: 2006 Z06 or 2006 911 S?
« Reply #167 on: September 03, 2009, 10:58:39 AM »
Mmm...

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If you just want a big engine and to go fast in a straight line, you might as well save your money and buy one of these....



I've never understood the "hotrod pickup" idea....
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Re: What to get: 2006 Z06 or 2006 911 S?
« Reply #168 on: September 03, 2009, 11:02:38 AM »


my friend has one....... worst interior of all the trucks.

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Re: What to get: 2006 Z06 or 2006 911 S?
« Reply #169 on: September 03, 2009, 11:55:57 AM »


my friend has one....... worst interior of all the trucks.

nothing wrong with the interior of my dakota.

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Re: What to get: 2006 Z06 or 2006 911 S?
« Reply #170 on: September 03, 2009, 12:55:55 PM »
nothing wrong with the interior of my dakota.

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The panels actually fit together and no rattles?
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Re: What to get: 2006 Z06 or 2006 911 S?
« Reply #171 on: September 03, 2009, 01:11:12 PM »
The panels actually fit together and no rattles?

yep. the only thing that makes noise in there, is the controller for my emergency strobes. ...and that's because i didn't tighten it properly.....yet.  :aok
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Re: What to get: 2006 Z06 or 2006 911 S?
« Reply #172 on: September 03, 2009, 01:24:39 PM »
nothing wrong with the interior of my dakota.

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compared to what? both Chevy and Ford have much more appointed interiors as well as the Japanese. I do not like Dodge trucks at all. Their looks ,interior of their powertrains. Sorry Cap to constantly disagree with you but I disagree with my wife as well.

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Re: What to get: 2006 Z06 or 2006 911 S?
« Reply #173 on: September 03, 2009, 02:01:50 PM »
compared to what? both Chevy and Ford have much more appointed interiors as well as the Japanese. I do not like Dodge trucks at all. Their looks ,interior of their powertrains. Sorry Cap to constantly disagree with you but I disagree with my wife as well.

well...i'm not ur wife.  :D



 guess compared to the average american car. nothing rubs, creaks, groans, moans, rattles, is falling off or out, or cracked, or broken.
 i did have to replace the door speakers just the other day though.
 no holes in the carpet, no sagging headliner, no tears in the seats, or shifter boot, no rust anywhere. there's really nothing to be unhappy about with this truck....even though it's only a dodge.
 it's not as fast as my mustang, and it gets "floaty"above 90, but she averaged decent mileage for a 318 with a 5 speed and 106k miles on her.

o yea...no oil leaks, taps, knocks, etc either.  :aok

 it runs so well, that if it didn't say dodge everywhere, i'd think it was a ford.  :D
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Re: What to get: 2006 Z06 or 2006 911 S?
« Reply #174 on: September 03, 2009, 02:41:29 PM »

Just an fyi the 427 cobrajet would not be the correct engine for the Cobra either they used the 427 side oiler. Roush makes a real nice Aluminum version that will help take some of that weight off the front end.


Actually .. Mr. Shelby went to the Chrysler-Dodge-Plymouth guys first, he wanted to put a Hemi into the AC car.
Unfortunately they turned him down, so he ended up at Ford. A Hemi AC Cobra would be Shelby's ideal, not what he had to settle for.

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Porsche is a nice car.
The Beach Boys didn't write any songs about them, though.

You can get a Z06 a couple years old out of http://www.corvetteforum.com/ for a reasonable price that has been well taken care of and has some of the toys you want on it already :)

I'm 6'2 and a Porsche is too small .. it feels like a phone booth on wheels (yes I drove a '67 911 Carrera years ago to see what they were like) .. I owned a vee-dub beetle years ago . . cant see ownin another fancier one.

People can rehash opinions all day long .. some informed, some ignorant .. but when you see it, drive it .. you'll know.
The right car will sing to you :) It wont matter what other people say or think .. you like it, you drive it.

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Re: What to get: 2006 Z06 or 2006 911 S?
« Reply #175 on: September 03, 2009, 02:56:04 PM »
You'll also see that GM is really pushing to expand their market appeal for the Vette in Europe, hence the involvement in Le Mans and factory support for the ELMS and European GT1 teams running the C6R GT1 racecar. Their efforts haven't gone unnoticed as there is quite a Corvette following in Europe (at least compared to years ago)... ironically probably a lot moreso than there is in the People's Republic of California....  :)

The interesting thing about GT1 is .. vette spanked em all so hard they stopped racing against them. So ..chevy decided to move their vettes into GT2 (smaller engine, pretty much same car) .. now they are in deep against ferrari-beemer-ford GT territory and the racing is close and well fought. Anyone who saw the last few laps at Mosport would have loved it .. the Ferrari-Vette battle was hard core racing, swappin paint and just flat out goin for it. They both wanted the win badly .. vette got by the Ferrari though and the Ferrari didn't have enough .. was an awesome duel.

Got a huge kick out of the Ferrari drivers comments afterward .. apparantly 'he' never has swapped paint on a pass deep into a corner
(ch'ya, right, sell it to the cheap seats bubi .. then he says next time he will push harder . . umm .. so you were slackin? :)
 
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Re: What to get: 2006 Z06 or 2006 911 S?
« Reply #176 on: September 03, 2009, 03:17:27 PM »
compared to what? both Chevy and Ford have much more appointed interiors as well as the Japanese. I do not like Dodge trucks at all. Their looks ,interior of their powertrains. Sorry Cap to constantly disagree with you but I disagree with my wife as well.
Only thing wrong with the dodge powertrain is the slushbox Mercedes  trans. Some valvebody modification fixes that.

Only other pickup that give an R/T Dakota a run is the lightning.. and that needed a supercharger to do it.
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Re: What to get: 2006 Z06 or 2006 911 S?
« Reply #177 on: September 03, 2009, 03:30:45 PM »
Only thing wrong with the dodge powertrain is the slushbox Mercedes  trans. Some valvebody modification fixes that.

Only other pickup that give an R/T Dakota a run is the lightning.. and that needed a supercharger to do it.

mine's a sport. it only has the 318. the r/t i think didn't start till 98? and that one was the 360........i think. .....
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Re: What to get: 2006 Z06 or 2006 911 S?
« Reply #178 on: September 03, 2009, 03:42:02 PM »
mine's a sport. it only has the 318. the r/t i think didn't start till 98? and that one was the 360........i think. .....

My dak is an r/t and yes 360 is the way to go. :aok
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Re: What to get: 2006 Z06 or 2006 911 S?
« Reply #179 on: September 03, 2009, 03:50:38 PM »
The interesting thing about GT1 is .. vette spanked em all so hard they stopped racing against them. So ..chevy decided to move their vettes into GT2 (smaller engine, pretty much same car) .. now they are in deep against ferrari-beemer-ford GT territory and the racing is close and well fought. Anyone who saw the last few laps at Mosport would have loved it .. the Ferrari-Vette battle was hard core racing, swappin paint and just flat out goin for it. They both wanted the win badly .. vette got by the Ferrari though and the Ferrari didn't have enough .. was an awesome duel.

Got a huge kick out of the Ferrari drivers comments afterward .. apparantly 'he' never has swapped paint on a pass deep into a corner
(ch'ya, right, sell it to the cheap seats bubi .. then he says next time he will push harder . . umm .. so you were slackin? :)
 
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Yep, Corvettes have spanked every form of competition they have had in pretty much every form of sports car racing for the last 25 years, starting with the C4 Corvette in the Playboy Cup series that evolved into the Escort Endurance Series that evolved into World Challenge. Corvettes won every race for several years and when Porsche, Lotus and Nissan threatened to withdraw from the series altogether they ended up kicking thed Corvettes out, thus the creation of the Corvette Challenge series in '88 and '89. In '90 they let the Vettes back into World Challenge and they went right back to kicking everyone's tails so badly that they had to add a truckload of weight to the Vettes to slow them down.

When GM got into the ALMS and Le Mans racing in GT1 you're right, they pretty much ran everyone off. Prodrive witht he Ferraris won a few races, and Aston did reasonably well, but they lacked the relaibility to push 11/10th most of the time.

I'm glad Corvette is now in GT2, I've wanted them to make that move for the last 2-3 years since Aston quit contesting anything beyond the 24 heurs du Mans. GT2 is where the real fight is, and it's been nice to see the GT2 right out of the box sit on a podium spot every race so far this season, finally taking P1 at Mosport. As far as I'm concerned ALMS GT2 is the ultimate form of racing in the US right now...I'm not into open wheel and GT racing appeals to me far more than the roundy-round template cars NASCAR uses now. I'm just still really sad I'm gonna miss the Petit Le Mans at Road Atlanta for the first time in years due to another commitment.....I was really looking forward to Corvette handing Porsche, Ferrari, and BMW their arses again.....
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