What to get: 2006 Z06 or 2006 911 S?

[Die Hard]

Bottom line: If you want performance and money is an issue buy American, but be mindful that the car will be built down to a price (and the interior will be the most evident place they've saved on). If you want performance and luxury with money being no issue buy high-end European; they're very good at that. If you want reliability and longevity buy Japanese (they can throw in some performance and/or luxury too, but usually not at US/Euro level).


Masherbrum, thanks for yielding.

[CAP1]

CLASSIC ORIGINAL MARAUDER


newer marauder


newer one at the track.

[Fulmar]

1958 Ferrari 250 Testa Rossa please....

[Reaper90]

It's a Japanese car show and both the German and American cars beat their own Evo and Acura. Will you please get something right.

Sorry, I was confusing your two clips you posted. But that's irrelevant, though... my point still stands. To be completely honest, the test would have needed to have been done of two cars that are actually price competitors, not a $30K more expensive model.

If you want to test the 911T or the GT2, do it against the ZR1 (and get someone to drive it who actually knows what they're doing). If you want to compare the Z06 against something, the 911S or GT3 are a heck of a lot closer in price.

What's your explanation as to why they purposefully did a lopsided test? Since you apparently have it all figured out?

[Reaper90]

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1958 Ferrari 250 Testa Rossa please....

Did someone win the Powerball?

[Reaper90]

you need to bear in mind price differences too, in UK:

Z06 £60k
911 £60k
911S £70K
911GT3 £80K
911T £100K
ZR1 £110K
911GT2 £130K

resale on 911s is very strong, vettes drop like a stone over here so for us 911s are much better value. cheaper servicing doesnt come close to negating the depreciation. in fact when the economy is strong you can drive a new 911 for next to nothing.

Excellent point, over there the numbers work out quite differently.

I'd say the fact that the Vette depreciates more rapidly makes it even that much better of a buy over there, once its a year or so old. Let someone else take the financial hit of buying it new, you get it a year later at a discount and pocket the extra!

<----never buys new

[Masherbrum]

Sorry, I was confusing your two clips you posted. But that's irrelevant, though... my point still stands. To be completely honest, the test would have needed to have been done of two cars that are actually price competitors, not a $30K more expensive model.

If you want to test the 911T or the GT2, do it against the ZR1 (and get someone to drive it who actually knows what they're doing). If you want to compare the Z06 against something, the 911S or GT3 are a heck of a lot closer in price.

What's your explanation as to why they purposefully did a lopsided test? Since you apparently have it all figured out?

Personally, the Cayman S is a better bargain than any 911.   

[Die Hard]

What's your explanation as to why they purposefully did a lopsided test? Since you apparently have it all figured out?

Without knowing the actual price difference in Japan I'll venture a guess that they took the best sports cars from around the world, but excluded the super cars (Carrera GT, Veyron etc.). The Corvette Z06 probably costs the same if not more than the 911 Turbo in Japan since engine displacement is heavily taxed there (engines larger than 2.5 liters are actually illegal except with special dispensations).

[CAP1]

(engines larger than 2.5 liters are actually illegal except with special dispensations).

really??????


 

[Reaper90]

Without knowing the actual price difference in Japan I'll venture a guess that they took the best sports cars from around the world, but excluded the super cars (Carrera GT, Veyron etc.). The Corvette Z06 probably costs the same if not more than the 911 Turbo in Japan since engine displacement is heavily taxed there (engines larger than 2.5 liters are actually illegal except with special dispensations).

Fair enough, I can see that. Chalk that up as another reason not to move to Japan! Prejudice against cubic inches is a vile and evil policy. I say load up another B-29!

j/k of course. 

[Die Hard]

really??????


 

They had enormous problems with pollution in the big cities. I'm not sure they still have that ban btw, but they did have it back in the 80s and 90s. They had oxygen booths on street corners so that people could get a shot of fresh air if they felt sick.




Addendum: So it's not a coincidence that most if not all their performance cars like the Nissan Skylines and Mitsubishi EVOs have small 2-2.5 liter engines with huge turbos. It's government intervention.

[Bronk]

Addendum: So it's not a coincidence that most if not all their performance cars like the Nissan Skylines and Mitsubishi EVOs have small 2-2.5 liter engines with huge turbos. It's government intervention.

Yea that's why the Nissan gt-r has a 3.8 .  

The 2.0 has more to do with  rally race restrictions, I think.

[morfiend]

You are the one that said long term cost of ownership of a Porsche would be less than a Corvette.  I was giving a simple example of why that cannot be true.  Brake job intervals for a Porsche almost mirror those of the Corvette.

While talking to Porsche, ask them about the engine rebuild schedule for any of their air cooled engines.  Yes, they do have to be rebuilt at specific mileage intervals or you risk destroying them.  Then ask how much that costs.  The Corvette will easily go passed about 2 air cooled Porsche engine rebuilds.

 I couldnt agree more,add to that the water cooled engines that implode and the fact the newer porsche's depreciate at a much higher rate than the older air cooled and I'd say the Vette is the better buy.

 But hey what do I know I drive a 98 accord

 It seems porsche thinks valves hittting pistons is normal wear and tear so be sure to include the cost of a new rebuild engine before you can unload your now used and depreciated car.

 ps: I'm a porsche fan and would love to have a mid 80's 911 but I cant get the boss to ok a car that old when you can by a mid 90's 911 for less....Hmmm I wonder why!!

   

[Die Hard]

Yea that's why the Nissan gt-r has a 3.8 .  

Special dispensations, like I said. After all you can own a Corvette in Japan.

[Die Hard]

ps: I'm a porsche fan and would love to have a mid 80's 911 but I cant get the boss to ok a car that old when you can by a mid 90's 911 for less....Hmmm I wonder why!!

Why does your boss need to OK it?