What to get: 2006 Z06 or 2006 911 S?

[Die Hard]

Now who's being derogatory?

[BigPlay]

See Rule #6

[Skuzzy]

Ok, admin hat on.....

I caution all of you about making personal attacks.  From this point, I will have to consider any more personal attacks to be showing complete disrespect for the rules of this board and will act accordingly (i.e. there will be suspension of board privs).

Play nice.

[CAP1]

Now who's being derogatory?

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i am...and i;m being blatantly honest. not being derotagory towards you though


when i used to tow, between the local greasemonkey, and a couple of jiffylubes, we averaged about 8 cars a month that we towed out of those places. yet they ran and drove in.

 funny thing was.......none of em would even turn over. seems some of those guys felt that oil in the engine was seriously over-rated. others felt that the drain plug wasn't necessary. others yet felt that the oil filter was just added weight, or hampered the free flow of oil through-out the engine.  

[CAP1]

Ok, admin hat on.....

I caution all of you about making personal attacks.  From this point, I will have to consider any more personal attacks to be showing complete disrespect for the rules of this board and will act accordingly (i.e. there will be suspension of board privs).

Play nice.

most of us have been staying nice.

i wish i knew what bp put in there before ya got him........


and i've yet to level a personal attack at anyone. 

[Die Hard]

 

[BigPlay]

ooooo..another personal attack.


just an fyi....there is not a car or light truck that can or will roll into my bays that i cannot figure out. i have never once in almost 30 years lost to a car.

 being as i'm a technician i am quite capable of diagnosing and repairing pretty much anything that rolls in my bay. including the high end things we were talking about before, although i haven't as yet.

 so.....not by any means a grease monkey.

 i know how to make cars get good gas mileage, i know how to make em go fast, i know how to make em run so frakkin clean, it's disgusting.


 and another FYI........in order to diagnose just why an engine is putting out too much emissions, requires me to know how and why they run, and the processes. i'm very good at what i do. i've never had to go job hunting, as when people found out(on the rare occasion it happened) that i might be in need of a job, they called me.
 should i not be able to keep my shop up and running(but i will), i will have no trouble getting work, as i will have a job as a diagnostic tech before i'm fully out the door.  

 any more personal attacks snappy?  

LOL Cap if your as good of a mechanic as you claim what the hell are you doing oil changes for??? How come your not on some race team or have some super dupper high performance shop? Don't answer please because I already know the answer. You probally are a very good everyday mechanic but you make it sound like you got all the bases covered. I do know one thing and that is if you are a , let's say  Ferrari engine rebuilder and that's all you have been doing for 15 years my guess is he will do a much better, faster job of it then a mechanic with your general mechanic knowledge. I am also positive that you would be completely lost on said engine rebuild . No knock on you cause after all your a everyday mechanic and a good one. The problem lies in your constant reassuring that you can even work on anything including  the space shuttle if given a chance and would even manage to get a couple of more horsepower out of it as well.

One thing that both you and I are not and that's a physicists, mathematician, engineer or any other highly trained person it takes to design any car not to mention the exotic ones. You may have a grasp on how things work and a understanding on it's design but to make the constant claims that you make only puts the things your really know and maybe really good at in bad light.

[Die Hard]

"Word" - as they say these days (I think).

[CAP1]

LOL Cap if your as good of a mechanic as you claim what the hell are you doing oil changes for??? How come your not on some race team or have some super dupper high performance shop? Don't answer please because I already know the answer. You probally are a very good everyday mechanic but you make it sound like you got all the bases covered. I do know one thing and that is if you are a , let's say  Ferrari engine rebuilder and that's all you have been doing for 15 years my guess is he will do a much better, faster job of it then a mechanic with your general mechanic knowledge. I am also positive that you would be completely lost on said engine rebuild . No knock on you cause after all your a everyday mechanic and a good one. The problem lies in your constant reassuring that you can even work on anything including  the space shuttle if given a chance and would even manage to get a couple of more horsepower out of it as well.

One thing that both you and I are not and that's a physicists, mathematician, engineer or any other highly trained person it takes to design any car not to mention the exotic ones. You may have a grasp on how things work and a understanding on it's design but to make the constant claims that you make only puts the things your really know and maybe really good at in bad light.

actually, an answer is required.

racing techs are specialized. just like dealer techs. a racing tech does one thing. he works on race cars. just like the porsche tech does one thing. he works on porsches.

i'm an auto tech. i work on em all. i have no desire to be on a race team. when i run my camaro, or my fairmont, i do it for fun(and the rush of going 0 to 130 in 9 seconds.  

 i don't do high performance, because there is too much liability in it...especially here in the prnj. in this area, there;s not much money in it either.

 that ferrari engine? give me the engine, and the information, and i can, and will rebuild it. i'll do it well too. i won't do it anywhere near as quickly as a ferrari tech will, but i can and will.

 space shuttle? you're stretching things now.

can the space shuttle drive or be pushed inot my bay? is it a car or light truck?

hey skuzzy....since i know you're watching this thread pretty close now.......what'll it take to get a drooly icon added?


almost forgot.....so far, i've done nothing in here to shed bad light on my profession......except for my derogatory comments about the quicky lube places.......
engineers........got a little snicker outta me there too.
while they're very highly trained, and intelligent, most of them couldn't diagnose a problem with their designs, much less repair it.
 that's in refernce to automotive engineers btw....and yes...i do know a couple of em.

[Die Hard]

while they're very highly trained, and intelligent, most of them couldn't diagnose a problem with their designs, much less repair it.

That's... *checks the rules one more time* very arrogant of you.

[Grayeagle]

ROFL Bigplay and Die Hard..

Pistons are still round and go in the round holes, etc.

Rebuilding a ferrari engine compared to any other engine would require the torque specs and knowledge of any 'tricks' the 'engineers' like to play (ie: 17 bolts to hold a 289 water pump on is a 'trick' ..finding them all is the 'trick') .. another example: to R&R a headgasket on a northstar V-8 the whole top end has to come off, injectors, manifold, heads, distributor .. it's insanely time consuming.

FYI: Formula cars are limited by the rules to a specific displacement ..so they run the *crap* out of them to get the most they can from them.
       If they had no rules about the size of the motor you would not see 19k motors in them. They are not cost effective.

-GE aka Frank

[Saurdaukar]

soo, 10 runs in the life of the engine...how many hours is that?

point being,  they are ringing the engines up to 19,500 RPM but they don't need to last a hugely long time.

It used to be - before the FIA stuck its nose in and tried to neuter Ferrari - that you could pretty much do whatever you wanted with the engines.  Hell - some lasted no longer than the few laps required to qualify.

When the rules were changed... what, two years ago, I guess... the FIA tried to "NASCAR-ize" F1 and make everyone play fair.  As expected, the ridiculous rules about engines having to last for both qualifying and the race - let alone two race weekends - resulted in many blue clouds and oil slicks trailing cars as they coasted off to the side of the track.

[Die Hard]

Pistons are still round and go in the round holes, etc.

I'm afraid that's not always the case nowadays.


VW turbo diesel with oval cylinders.

[moot]

Pretty sure oval pistons were commonly used at least for a season in motogp as well. 

[CAP1]

That's... *checks the rules one more time* very arrogant of you.

no, no it's not.

it's truthful, and honest.