What to get: 2006 Z06 or 2006 911 S?

[CAP1]

No I've been subscribed to this thread back when it was a "what should I get" thread before it turned into my gasoline molecule is better than your cubic inch circle jerk.  It just struck me as familiar because I felt back then like I was talking to a brick wall who grasped onto one little idea and wouldn't let it out of their kung fu death grip.

I don't know enough about cars in the first place to hold my own just how to do some minor maintenance and after a few weeks ago replace air conditioning compressors despite the fact all I needed was a new AC pulley.  Solution:  $280 pulley...doh!  250 for the compressor and 30 for the pulley

did you do the compressor yourself? what kind of car?

and are you at least having as much fun in this thread as the rest of us?

[Die Hard]

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820 horsepower at 6400 rpm. what;s your point?

stop trying to dance to different subjects.  

BTW...speaking of changine the subject......notice the yellow and green lights both still lit.


THAT my friends is cutting a PERFECT light.  , and is why others tried to avoid lining up next to me in the first round. 

I'm not "dancing". We're still talking about torque and RPM are we not? Unless you're still not clear on kinetic energy that is. Those F1 engine makers must be imbeciles to rev their engines to 19,000 rpm when they could have made due with 6,400 like your engine. That's if RPM has nothing to do with power.

I am of course being sarcastic.

HP = TORQUE x RPM / 5252

[moot]

I see your water-pumper and raise you a proper cooling system.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlFEvkpAw3w#t=1m37s

 

Nice sound on the second one sitting on the dyno, once he actually punches it, though.

[vorticon]

I'm not "dancing". We're still talking about torque and RPM are we not? Unless you're still not clear on kinetic energy that is. Those F1 engine makers must be imbeciles to rev their engines to 19,000 rpm when they could have made due with 6,400 like your engine. That's if RPM has nothing to do with power.

I am of course being sarcastic.

HP = TORQUE x RPM / 5252

how often do those F1 engines get rebuilt?

[edog1977]

how often do those F1 engines get rebuilt?

Never.  The teams only are allowed 8 engines per season.  They are sealed and can't be serviced.  There are 17 races in the championship so each engine must last two race weekends.  That includes 3 practice sessions, qualifying, and the race.

Edit: The drivers do complain that there is distinct lack of power toward the end of an engines life.

[edog1977]

the rpm will drop no more than 200 or 300 rpm, keeping the curves nearly the same.

  That is some tight gear spacing.  I'm pretty sure F1 cars can't afford that tight of spacing.  Probably closer to a 1,500 RPM gap.

[Golfer]

did you do the compressor yourself? what kind of car?

and are you at least having as much fun in this thread as the rest of us?

2000 Silverado and I DIY'd.

I was doing the front brakes and while I had it on the lift I decided to investigate why my AC wasn't working as well as it should.  I found the melted belt laying on the pulleys.  Thinking the compressor seized I walked right out and bought the compressor (you can see how I learned my lesson) as I already had an AC charging manifold on hand.  I took it to over to my buddys house (Corvette nut and one of the guys I fly with) since he had a better workspace.  We took the compressor off and went through the hard part only to find that when I was mounting the new belt that the old pulley had gone to hell.  Doh!  Called up a couple stores to find one in stock and 30 bucks later we were done.  Turns out I didn't need a new compressor but what the hell I have a new one now.  2-1/2 cans of 134a later I had plenty of cold air to help combat Die Hard's hot.

Easy enough to do and total work time was less than 2 hours not counting running out for parts.  Afterward we BBQ'd and watch the meat bombs fall from the sky at Cross Keys from his porch.

[Die Hard]

how often do those F1 engines get rebuilt?

This 2005 one is still running.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGUZJVY-sHo

[edog1977]

2000 Silverado and I DIY'd.

Reminds me of the time the water pump went out on my Subaru.  I got the water pump and a manual.  Then a realized the darn thing was driven by the timing belt.  

I was able to get the job done.  Took me about two hours....times three.

[Golfer]

Yeah, oops.  I learned to do a more thorough inspection before I go buy parts.  Call it tuition.

[edog1977]

This 2005 one is still running.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGUZJVY-sHo

That engine is either new, has been rebuilt, or is running at reduced RPM.  There is no way an engine from 05 is running at it's rated output without a rebuild.

[Die Hard]

No, you're probably right. It's pretty cool anyway.

[CAP1]

I'm not "dancing". We're still talking about torque and RPM are we not? Unless you're still not clear on kinetic energy that is. Those F1 engine makers must be imbeciles to rev their engines to 19,000 rpm when they could have made due with 6,400 like your engine. That's if RPM has nothing to do with power.

I am of course being sarcastic.

HP = TORQUE x RPM / 5252

they could easily make their power at lower rpm.

look at winston cup cars. (i friggin hate em anymore, but they can make a point though)

and they're not imbeciles...it's how they chose to build those engines.

and you are dancing.

[eagl]

And what makes you think the 4.6 Mustang engine is technologically modern? The Rolls-Royce Merlin was a DOHC engine.

Ford designed and built it fairly recently, touting it as the tech platform for the next couple decades of ford motors.  Sounds to me like they made it as advanced as they could.  The SOHC version goes in more vehicles, the DOHC is only in the mustang, and at first it was only in the cobra.

[CAP1]

That is some tight gear spacing.  I'm pretty sure F1 cars can't afford that tight of spacing.  Probably closer to a 1,500 RPM gap.

with the speeds, and types of driving they have to do, i think that they need to have wider spaced gearing.