What to get: 2006 Z06 or 2006 911 S?

[Skuzzy]

Die Hard, 2,000HP in a street car engine from a big block Chevy is very attainable.
2600HP

If you want, I can find some race engines that push 5,000HP.

[Die Hard]

1,200 hp Volkswagen (lol)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsIIvQiNAms

[Die Hard]

2,000 hp Toyota 3.4 liter

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nN1J-ZSto9I

[Skuzzy]

Ok, now you are just getting silly.

I cannot see anything at Youtube anyway.

Are you really trying to argue that smaller engines can reliably produce as much power as larger engines?

[CAP1]

....and the Japanese need turbochargers to hit those "power" numbers.

and said turbos significantly shorten the engines life.

[CAP1]

Well, lets take the earlier example of the Porsche 917 race car. A 4.5 liter flat-12 with turbo. 1580 hp almost 40 years ago. What does the Corvette C6.R produce today with its bigger engine?

ok wisenheimer......

8,000 horsepower.......PUSHROD ENGINE.  

http://www.hotrod.com/newsletter/hrdp_0308_racing_engine_jr_drag_racing_league/index.html

forgot the link.

[Die Hard]

Ok, now you are just getting silly.

I cannot see anything at Youtube anyway.

Are you really trying to argue that smaller engines can reliably produce as much power as larger engines?

Nope. I'm saying that smaller engines with newer technology can reliably produce as much power as larger engines with old technology.

[Die Hard]

ok wisenheimer......

8,000 horsepower.......PUSHROD ENGINE. 

I think you forgot to post a link or something...

[Die Hard]

and said turbos significantly shorten the engines life.

Nah.

[Skuzzy]

I think you forgot to post a link or something...

There are several examples.

8,000HP

[CAP1]

ZR1 uses a 6.2L LS series engine, with pushrods, just like the 7.0L Z06 engine.  Same engine family, different displacement.

They've been saying the pushrod engines are obsolete(oudated and inferior mean the same thing as obsolete), but we still see them, delivering comparable or sometimes superior performance as the so called new stuff.

thanks....i didn't know what engine was in them.

for the guys that think overhead cams are new tech.....they're not. neither are disc brakes, superchargers, turbos, rack and pinion steering, hidden headlights.....it's ALL been around since the 30's i think.

 and with performance....simple is best....and most reliable.

 ever seen a smallblock chevy blow a head gasket? yet ya see 4 cylinders pop em all the time....same with the flat 6's i think.

[CAP1]

Well, lets take the earlier example of the Porsche 917 race car. A 4.5 liter flat-12 with turbo. 1580 hp almost 40 years ago. What does the Corvette C6.R produce today with its bigger engine?

well....put a turbo on it, and we'll see.

there's 5.0L's out there making over 1,000 hp on turbos.

better question? what did that flat 12 make without its turbo?

 you guys need to stop trying to plug the holes in the stories with your fingers. 

[Die Hard]

There are several examples.

8,000HP

Top fuel... I should have guessed.

[CAP1]

Yes, but Die Hard, in the aftermarket, those stock Corvette engines can be pushed to 1000 HP and still be very streetable.  You can buy street crate engines that push 900HP. There are those who would argue that much horsepower is useless, but then they are not familiar with tracking thier car.

As an example, this weekend at the 2.5 mile track at Texas Motor Speedway, it is open day for racing.  $150 will buy a full day of it.  I'll see Cobras (kits), Ford GT's (actually, there is only two that race regularly), Corvettes, Porsches, Lotus, BMW, and everything inbetween.  It is just a safe and competitive environment for those who like to race.

That is where you can use that power.  The current lead car is a Cobra with a 427 Ford small block.  At the rear wheels, he is tipping over 600 HP.  He drives it to the tracks.  I have ridden in that car, and it will suck the blood right out of your eyes when he is in a hurry.

Although Texas Motor Speedway is a challenge due to its long straight.  It will be a fun weekend.

but you know that they';re gonna argue that the cobra is an english car, right/?

 it doesn't matter to them that it was re-engineered to handle a real engine, rather than the one that ace was trying to put in them before they went under. 

[TheAce]

What ever happened to the Dodge Viper!? Sure it only has 510 Hp stock, but its good old American muscle!!! Who doesn't like a roaring V10!?!?   





I don't care who you are, dats sexy rite dare...