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Offline Die Hard

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Re: What to get: 2006 Z06 or 2006 911 S?
« Reply #510 on: September 09, 2009, 04:47:59 PM »
In a 4-stroke V8 you have 8 bangs for ever 4 revolutions. If you double the RPM you double the number of bangs and thus the generated kinetic energy. There are of course losses involved in increasing RPM so it is a case of diminishing returns.
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Re: What to get: 2006 Z06 or 2006 911 S?
« Reply #511 on: September 09, 2009, 04:50:56 PM »
In a 4-stroke each piston fires every other revolution of the crank..... thus 8 "bangs" ever two revolutions, not 4 revolutions.
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Re: What to get: 2006 Z06 or 2006 911 S?
« Reply #512 on: September 09, 2009, 04:51:51 PM »
You're right of course. Brain fart.
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Re: What to get: 2006 Z06 or 2006 911 S?
« Reply #513 on: September 09, 2009, 04:53:16 PM »
Quote from: Die Hard on September 09, 2009, 04:44:17 PM
The kinetic energy is produced by the violent expansion of gases in a confined area.

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wanna try again?
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Re: What to get: 2006 Z06 or 2006 911 S?
« Reply #514 on: September 09, 2009, 04:54:17 PM »
Quote from: Die Hard on September 09, 2009, 04:47:59 PM
In a 4-stroke V8 you have 8 bangs for ever 4 revolutions. If you double the RPM you double the number of bangs and thus the generated kinetic energy. There are of course losses involved in increasing RPM so it is a case of diminishing returns.

you're still wrong. wanna try again? :D

holy google batman!!
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Re: What to get: 2006 Z06 or 2006 911 S?
« Reply #515 on: September 09, 2009, 04:54:48 PM »
No. I was right the first time.
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Re: What to get: 2006 Z06 or 2006 911 S?
« Reply #516 on: September 09, 2009, 04:55:56 PM »
Quote from: Die Hard on September 09, 2009, 04:54:48 PM
No. I was right the first time.


no ya weren't.

i'll give ya another clue.

violent explosions in  confined spaces in an internal combustion engine will destroy said engine in short order.

wanna try again? :D
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Re: What to get: 2006 Z06 or 2006 911 S?
« Reply #517 on: September 09, 2009, 05:00:06 PM »
The piston and crank does not produce any power. They only convert the kinetic energy produced by the expanding gases into rotational force, know as torque.
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Re: What to get: 2006 Z06 or 2006 911 S?
« Reply #518 on: September 09, 2009, 05:14:34 PM »
Quote from: Die Hard on September 09, 2009, 05:00:06 PM
The piston and crank does not produce any power. They only convert the kinetic energy produced by the expanding gases into rotational force, know as torque.

wait? i thought there were explosions in there?

o ya.........and you got the second part above correct.....so.....now.....wh at moves your car?
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Re: What to get: 2006 Z06 or 2006 911 S?
« Reply #519 on: September 09, 2009, 05:16:11 PM »
Quote from: Die Hard on September 09, 2009, 05:00:06 PM
The piston and crank does not produce any power. They only convert the kinetic energy produced by the expanding gases into rotational force, know as torque.

Just when you think it cant get much better.
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Re: What to get: 2006 Z06 or 2006 911 S?
« Reply #520 on: September 09, 2009, 05:18:00 PM »
I said "violent expansions", not explosions. Reading comprehension again CAP...


My car is moved by the violent expansion (read it right this time) of gases in a confined space. That's where the energy is produced. Nowhere else.
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Re: What to get: 2006 Z06 or 2006 911 S?
« Reply #521 on: September 09, 2009, 05:18:29 PM »
Quote from: Saurdaukar on September 09, 2009, 05:16:11 PM
Just when you think it cant get much better.

he's digging. i think he's got the market cornered on shovels right now.

i'm trying to be nice, and helpful....and i suspect he's on google as i type this.  :D
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Re: What to get: 2006 Z06 or 2006 911 S?
« Reply #522 on: September 09, 2009, 05:19:06 PM »
Quote from: Saurdaukar on September 09, 2009, 05:16:11 PM
Just when you think it cant get much better.

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Re: What to get: 2006 Z06 or 2006 911 S?
« Reply #523 on: September 09, 2009, 05:19:26 PM »
Quote from: Saurdaukar on September 09, 2009, 05:16:11 PM
Just when you think it cant get much better.

Exactly how does the piston and crank produce power without the expanding fuel/air mix? They don't.
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Re: What to get: 2006 Z06 or 2006 911 S?
« Reply #524 on: September 09, 2009, 05:20:20 PM »
Quote from: Die Hard on September 09, 2009, 05:18:00 PM
I said "violent expansions", not explosions. Reading comprehension again CAP...


My car is moved by the violent expansion (read it right this time) of gases in a confined space. That's where the energy is produced. Nowhere else.

got me there...i mis-read that somehow.

the expansion is not violent. it is controlled. if it was violent, then it would be an explosion...and would destroy the engine.
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