Try this in an Airbus!

[Noir]

That Boeing VS Airbus argument is stupid, both manufacturers make planes that have very close specifications and flight limiters set aside, I don't see any reason why an Airbus can't do what a Boeing does, and vice versa. But if you guys want to do a flag waving contest go on with it...

[Die Hard]

Indeed. If either company goes bust we, the consumers, lose. Unless you're protecting some investment (financial or otherwise) in one of the companies any favoritism is harmful and downright stupid.

[RTHolmes]

Bruce Dickinson in an A320: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKBABNL-DDM

the airbus flight computer seems to have its own opinion about Bruce's flying at 6:30

[FTJR]

You can roll an Airbus, just push the disconnect buttons to go into Direct law, as Die Hard said. You remove all the limitations of the computers, and the controls are directly linked to the joystick.

Would I want to.. no way, but it is possible.

(5000 pic, A320)

[Noir]

the A380 I've seen definitly had the limiter off

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-hxXmM0ykA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlIbb2eCCHQ

took the videos myself, sorry for bad quality

[trigger2]

1G. You don't think an Airbus can take 1G? Silly.

No, I'll bet an Airbus can take 1G, but can it maintain enough lift to keep a safe altitude? Highly doubtful.

[Die Hard]

No, I'll bet an Airbus can take 1G, but can it maintain enough lift to keep a safe altitude? Highly doubtful.

What facts do you base that opinion on? What makes a B707 able to do it, but not an A320?

[Bronk]

Oh crap, Gscholz is back.  Run!

Fixed

[trigger2]

What facts do you base that opinion on? What makes a B707 able to do it, but not an A320?

Simply the wing design. The B707 has more of a "straight" wing design, while the A320s wing curves up to reduce fuel usage, which, inverveted, would cause a traumatic loss of lift.

[Dinan]

   Wing dihedral angle affects fuel usage?  Where did you learn that?   

[Denholm]

I think he got that mixed up with engine placement.

[DA98]

No, I'll bet an Airbus can take 1G, but can it maintain enough lift to keep a safe altitude? Highly doubtful.

Simply the wing design. The B707 has more of a "straight" wing design, while the A320s wing curves up to reduce fuel usage, which, inverveted, would cause a traumatic loss of lift.

Well, you don't want much lift when inverted during a 1g barrel roll.

[Die Hard]

Simply the wing design. The B707 has more of a "straight" wing design, while the A320s wing curves up to reduce fuel usage, which, inverveted, would cause a traumatic loss of lift.

To form an educated opinion on this matter first you need to understand what a barrel roll is. At no point during a barrel roll does the wing produce negative lift; the angle of attack is always positive and produces positive G's. In a perfectly executed 1G barrel roll the aircraft will not lose altitude, it will in fact briefly gain altitude as the roll is initiated by pulling up into a shallow climb. When the aircraft is inverted the pilot is literally pulling the nose down into a 1G inverted dive, continuing the roll back to level flight while always maintaining 1G (or close to 1G). Unless the passengers look out the window (or at night) they would not know the aircraft was being rolled and the stewardesses could continue to serve champagne.