Perk Ord.

[B17guyCH]

I've had this idea for a while, since I'm a buff guy i get kind of sick of how the ar-234 is the only perk plane.

Okay here's how this idea would work:

Ordnance that is specialized would cost perks, I'm not talking cannons or anything but things such as the Tall Boy. If HTC does decide to put in a B-29 this could be a useful concept.

[Nemisis]

ONLY if regular bombs up to 4000lbs remain un perked

[thndregg]

However this works, I've got five years (19+K) perks to burn. I wouldn't mind a bit having a perked ord system. It would make one more careful and patient (there's a concept) on how effectively it was delivered, i.e getting the most "bang for your buck".

Ages ago, HiTech & company decided to change the bombsight methodology to simplifly "calibrating" it for a drop to increase accuracy. I could be way off, but having a perked ord system would add a welcome degree of difficulty. If you miss, it gets docked. If you hit, depending on how much OVER the MINIMUM AMOUNT of ord it takes to destroy a target depends on how much you maintain, get docked, or add to your perk bank.

I'm still rattling this around in my not-yet caffenated brain, so it might not make sense to some. Forgive me.

[Saurdaukar]

Vote in favor.

[oakranger]

i say bring the B-29!

[trigger2]

I've had this idea for a while, since I'm a buff guy i get kind of sick of how the ar-234 is the only perk plane.

That really is the only bomber that is feasible in game, to be perked, here's a complete bomber list for you, these are the bombers that saw service in WWII, if you find one, aside from the B-32 and B-29, that should be perked, let us know...

Bomber aircraft:
Amiot 143 (1936; France, India)
Arado Ar 234 (1944; Germany)
Armstrong Whitworth Whitley (1937;  United Kingdom)
Avro Manchester ( United Kingdom)
Avro Lancaster (1942;  United Kingdom)
Bloch MB.210 (1937; France)
Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress (1940;  United States)
Boeing B-29 Superfortress (1940;  United States)
Bristol Blenheim (1937;  United Kingdom ,Kingdom of Yugoslavia )
CANT Z.1007 (1938; Italy)
Consolidated B-24 Liberator (1940;  United States)
Consolidated B-32 Dominator (1942;  United States)
Dornier Do 17 (1937; Germany,Kingdom of Yugoslavia)
Dornier Do 217 (1941; Germany)
Douglas A-20 Havoc (1941;  United States, United Kingdom)
Douglas A-26 Invader (1944;  United States)
Douglas B-18 Bolo (1936;  United States)
Fairey Battle (1937;  United Kingdom)
Fiat BR.20 (1938; Italy)
Focke-Wulf Fw 200 Condor (1940; Germany)
Fokker C.X (1933; Netherlands, Finland)
Handley Page Halifax (1940;  United Kingdom)
Handley Page Hampden (1938;  United Kingdom)
Heinkel He 111 (1936; Germany)
Heinkel He 177 (1943; Germany)
Ilyushin Il-4 (1938; Soviet Union)
Junkers Ju 88 (1938; Germany)
Kawasaki Ki-48 (1940; Japan)
Keystone B-3A (1936;  United States, Philippines)
Liore et Olivier LeO 451 (1939; France)
Lockheed A-29 Hudson (1939;  United States)
Lockheed PV-1/-2/B-34/-37/R-37 Ventura (1942;  United States, British Commonwealth, United Kingdom)
Martin A-22 Maryland (1939; France, United Kingdom
Martin A-30 Baltimore  United States, United Kingdom
Martin B-26 Marauder (1941;  United States)
Martin 139 WS (Netherlands, Thailand)
Mitsubishi G3M (1937; Japan)
Mitsubishi G4M (1941; Japan)
Mitsubishi Ki-21 (Japan, Thailand)
Nakajima Ki-49 (1938; Japan)
North American B-25 Mitchell (1941;  United States)
Pe-8 (1936; Soviet Union)
Piaggio P.108 (1942; Italy)
PZL.23 Karaś (1936; Poland)
PZL.37 Łoś (1938; Poland)
Savoia-Marchetti SM.79 (1937; Italy)
Savoia-Marchetti SM.81 (1935, Italy)
Short Stirling (1940;  United Kingdom)
Sukhoi Su-2 (1937; Soviet Union
Tupolev SB (1934; Soviet Union)
Tupolev Tu-2 (1944; Soviet Union)
Vickers Wellington (1938;  United Kingdom)
Yokosuka P1Y (1945; Japan)

[Nemisis]

However this works, I've got five years (19+K) perks to burn. I wouldn't mind a bit having a perked ord system. It would make one more careful and patient (there's a concept) on how effectively it was delivered, i.e getting the most "bang for your buck".

Ages ago, HiTech & company decided to change the bombsight methodology to simplifly "calibrating" it for a drop to increase accuracy. I could be way off, but having a perked ord system would add a welcome degree of difficulty. If you miss, it gets docked. If you hit, depending on how much OVER the MINIMUM AMOUNT of ord it takes to destroy a target depends on how much you maintain, get docked, or add to your perk bank.

I'm still rattling this around in my not-yet caffenated brain, so it might not make sense to some. Forgive me.

It makes sense, but I just don't see that working. HOW would 2 weekers build perks to even TAKE the bombs? How would you get the perks to take bombs out the first time as a first time subscriber. You are basicly cutting newbs off from bombing.

And I change my mind. I vote in favor of this ONLY if only the 4000lb bomb on the lanc is perked. Not the Ju87's, that is a great tank buster bomb, and it is the Ju87's only hanger destroying weapon.

[thndregg]

It makes sense, but I just don't see that working. HOW would 2 weekers build perks to even TAKE the bombs? How would you get the perks to take bombs out the first time as a first time subscriber. You are basicly cutting newbs off from bombing.

Agree. Like I said, I wasn't fully awake when I posted this. Will have to think on it some more.

[1Boner]

You wanna perk stuff that we already have??

No.

However, I would like to see the "old" calibration method make a comeback.

I mean, cmon how hard was it really?

You just need to be able to read to understand it.

[Rich46yo]

I dont think perking the ord, or perking a currently unperked bomber, will really solve anything. Its only window dressing.

Nothing can take the place of a bright new, shiny, bomber type coming off the factory floor.

[onan]

Hi,
   Perking ords, if it is used for the restriction of advantage is cool with me. 
Especially if the Lanc's 22,000lb "Earthquake bomb" or 12,000 "Tall boy" are on the loadout.

Found this on rare WWII Brittish bombers.

http://www.richard-seaman.com/Aircraft/Museums/Hendon/BritishWw2/index.html

I like the Sunderland.  I the idea of winching depth charges out the side loading hatch is cool but we don't have Subs so forget it.   

[Tilt]

I could be way off, but having a perked ord system would add a welcome degree of difficulty. If you miss, it gets docked. If you hit, depending on how much OVER the MINIMUM AMOUNT of ord it takes to destroy a target depends on how much you maintain, get docked, or add to your perk bank.

I always thought the same mechanism as now would be used .ie survival. if you pay a depost on an ac then you have to land it not to loose it. If you pay a deposit on an AC because of the ord chosen then you still have to land it not to lose it.

This way the only COAD relates to how the initial perk is calculated. After that what you lose or gain upon return/death is discerned and calculated in the same way with respect to the original perk deposit at launch.

This way it (the penalty value)  has nothing to do with how effectively the ord is used...........its more to do with how effectively you return the aircraft. Ideally the maths would balance stuff out with a small bonus for taking the heavier perked ordinance.


The more perks you earn due to destroying more stuff (and successfully landing)would reflect the more perks risked in the initial deposit. Suicide bombing however would get very expensive..........

[moot]

I reckon it would make people less likely to take risks, i.e. fly more timidly than now.  I think the alternative of perking rare loadouts (i.e. 1000#ers on P-51s, or Tiny Tims, or the Tse-tse mossie or cookie loadout, etc) is probably better.

[waystin2]

I dont think perking the ord, or perking a currently unperked bomber, will really solve anything. Its only window dressing.

Nothing can take the place of a bright new, shiny, bomber type coming off the factory floor.
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Ditto.

[B17guyCH]

Okay just to clear this up.

 No perks for anything we already have!