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Offline Getback

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109 k-4
« on: September 01, 2009, 12:27:53 PM »
Wow, what a plane! I was watching some countrymen engage one the other day, even filmed it. When reviewing the film I saw it dive from 14k to 9k and then pull back up to 16k. My poor ole F4U-1A just couldn't keep pace. I thought what is up with this. In fact, reviewing the film the plane actually accelerated while climbing at one point. Nothing super major, maybe 2 to 3 mph. My plane decelerates the instant I pull up. I thought to myself this is nonsense. So I went to the TA and tested one with a full tank of gas. I dove down from 14k to 9k and in fact climbed to 17k and probably could have made it to 18k. It was still climbing at about 90 to 100mph. I'm surprised I don't see 5 of these for every other plane up. I then tested it in a dive. No problem there either. Dove great! When you see them on the deck you just know they are going to go vertical but you cannot even come close to bringing your gun sights on them unless you catch them at the apex of their climb, at least not in an f4. What really gets me though, is that they are usually the last one left in a furball and when you shoot them down, the arrogant xxx call you carp or much much worse, thinking they are just superior pilots. No not in this case, it really is the plane.
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Re: 109 k-4
« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2009, 12:31:03 PM »
If your in a 1a he is using his strength against your weakness.

If you were in a 4D he might try something else.


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Re: 109 k-4
« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2009, 12:35:58 PM »
The K4 is a real pain in the butt to fly, IMO, but if I had to fight 2v1 for the rest of my life, I'd probably take it.
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Re: 109 k-4
« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2009, 12:41:41 PM »
If your in a 1a he is using his strength against your weakness.

If you were in a 4D he might try something else.


I fly a bomber and have little trouble with them.

I understand that, using your planes strength against the other guys plane weakness, why I don't turn fight a spit in a P47d40. Although I know some folks who can give a great fight to a spit using a p47. The k4 does have some weakness, low amount of ammo and It's not as fast as many planes. For buffs in mho, you need a fast plane.

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Re: 109 k-4
« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2009, 12:43:59 PM »
The k4 does have some weakness, low amount of ammo and It's not as fast as many planes. For buffs in mho, you need a fast plane.

You are kidding, right?
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Re: 109 k-4
« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2009, 12:47:17 PM »

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Re: 109 k-4
« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2009, 12:53:07 PM »
You are kidding, right?

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Re: 109 k-4
« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2009, 12:53:31 PM »
You are kidding, right?

I stand corrected. I reviewed the specs. I only tested the diving and climbing aspects just to see if I could duplicate what was in the film.

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Re: 109 k-4
« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2009, 12:53:49 PM »
K4 = pure own.
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« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2009, 12:57:23 PM »
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Re: 109 k-4
« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2009, 01:00:30 PM »
Wow, what a plane! I was watching some countrymen engage one the other day, even filmed it. When reviewing the film I saw it dive from 14k to 9k and then pull back up to 16k. My poor ole F4U-1A just couldn't keep pace. I thought what is up with this. In fact, reviewing the film the plane actually accelerated while climbing at one point. Nothing super major, maybe 2 to 3 mph. My plane decelerates the instant I pull up. I thought to myself this is nonsense. So I went to the TA and tested one with a full tank of gas. I dove down from 14k to 9k and in fact climbed to 17k and probably could have made it to 18k. It was still climbing at about 90 to 100mph. I'm surprised I don't see 5 of these for every other plane up. I then tested it in a dive. No problem there either. Dove great! When you see them on the deck you just know they are going to go vertical but you cannot even come close to bringing your gun sights on them unless you catch them at the apex of their climb, at least not in an f4. What really gets me though, is that they are usually the last one left in a furball and when you shoot them down, the arrogant xxx call you carp or much much worse, thinking they are just superior pilots. No not in this case, it really is the plane.
109 K-4 are a very good plane to fly, i like it a lot.  :salute

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Re: 109 k-4
« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2009, 01:32:40 PM »
what is the difference in the 109-K4 and say for example the G6?  and please keep in mind that i almost never fly ANY variant of the 109, im just curious.  :salute

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Re: 109 k-4
« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2009, 01:47:26 PM »
what is the difference in the 109-K4 and say for example the G6?  and please keep in mind that i almost never fly ANY variant of the 109, im just curious.  :salute

The main difference is engine power. K4 is a much faster & better climbing plane, with some reduction in turning ability. In addition to that, the K4 has a 30mm hub cannon instead of a 20mm one.

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Re: 109 k-4
« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2009, 02:53:23 PM »
I like the K4 alot, but I've not mastered the coconut chucker yet, so I like to fly the G14, its still no K4..but it still climbs quite good.
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