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Re: Spiraling Down the Tubes
« Reply #30 on: September 08, 2009, 06:19:10 AM »
I don't like soap period and this one is mediocre even by soap standards.  The characters are stupid and so is the storyline.  This aint a dig at your taste, it's a dig at the terrible quality of the show.  Not just campy but stupid.. And wasted opportunity to get people interested in space.  The moral voice overs are mind numbing truisms. 
Lexx could qualify as soap... So could House MD.. But at least they had some real quality moments to the core of the show.  DG is soap first, soap second, scifi third.
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Re: Spiraling Down the Tubes
« Reply #31 on: September 08, 2009, 07:09:07 AM »
Well, if you don't like soap period, then pardon me for not giving your opinion on the quality of a space-soap much weight.
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Re: Spiraling Down the Tubes
« Reply #32 on: September 08, 2009, 07:18:47 AM »
Well, Im saying there's lots of shows that aren't supposed to be soaps but still give into soap stuff e.g. as filler.  Defying gravity isn't a space anything.. Space is just the window dressing.  The characters aren't astronauts and aren't really in space.  And there's some quality soaps, but DG isn't.
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« Reply #33 on: September 08, 2009, 07:21:03 AM »
It's a soap opera set in a near-future space setting. You don't like soap, don't watch it.
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« Reply #34 on: September 08, 2009, 07:34:25 AM »
DH you've got wax in your ears. moot isn't saying he doesn't like soaps. He's saying that there ARE quality soaps, and that Defying Gravity is NOT a good soap.
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Re: Spiraling Down the Tubes
« Reply #35 on: September 08, 2009, 07:46:03 AM »
Quote from: Saxman on September 08, 2009, 07:34:25 AM
DH you've got wax in your ears. moot isn't saying he doesn't like soaps.

Your's must be bleeding.


Quote from: moot on September 08, 2009, 06:19:10 AM
I don't like soap period ...

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Re: Spiraling Down the Tubes
« Reply #36 on: September 08, 2009, 09:29:26 AM »
I don't like soap when it's filler.. Or when it's the days of our lives variety..  I can stand the guilty pleasure of watching House MD (although I think it's a loss for itself when it fails to keep a story alive and just wallows in soapy stagnation or nonsensical PC - e.g. House going soft was 50% well done), or campy crappy Lexx or Good VS Evil.. But that's because the characters are interesting, and the themes/environment/plots are interesting.  Instead DG has very little of each.  The Sci Fi setting is bogus, the characters are not believable astronauts and basically grown adults playing airhead teenagers, and the story itself is swiss cheese.  What DG looks like is a team of beginner writers who didn't do their homework on the SF background and settings, and are underfunded for production.

Someone else elsewhere said that there was no way to make realistic sci fi interesting.  That's just not true...  An even more soapy series is "Planetes".  The writing, cool sci-fi themes (I mean what's the point of doing sci-fi if the only SF that actually happens is some God entity like Beta?), and realism all are excellent without being tedious.  So .. I don't like soaps but I don't have trouble seeing quality soap.
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Re: Spiraling Down the Tubes
« Reply #37 on: September 08, 2009, 09:32:17 AM »
Quote from: Saxman on September 06, 2009, 02:15:52 PM
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any day of the week. I keep hoping they make the two planned sequel movies that are going to completely disregard the SG-1 continuity--which the original writer Dean Devlin was kept out of by MGM when they seized control of the rights--and tell the story how he INTENDED to make it.





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Re: Spiraling Down the Tubes
« Reply #38 on: September 08, 2009, 10:05:23 AM »
You mean AMC actually played a REAL classic movie? Where'd they find it in their schedule amongst their Catwoman marathons?
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« Reply #39 on: September 08, 2009, 10:20:05 AM »
You mean their stupid shows like mad men or others like that?  lol Because of that type crud I watch much less of AMC.

Another ignorant thing all the channels do now is a 1/4 screen advertisement during a movie. Face it... if someone does not know what channel they are on they'd be working for the TV station. I watch more of my personal video collection now so I don't have to see that type crap.

Oh and all the stupid folks they find for reality shows... TV including cable has gone down the tubes.
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Re: Spiraling Down the Tubes
« Reply #40 on: September 08, 2009, 03:25:11 PM »
Quote from: Die Hard on September 06, 2009, 11:52:35 AM
This starts up October 2nd on SyFy:
http://stargate.mgm.com/view/series/3/index.html
Can't wait!

I will watch it just because it will be NEW BUT it looks like what I now term that abortion of a show called Star Trek: Voyager...it even has the same story line from the trailer about the base/ship getting punted to the other side of the universe when they were under attack.
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Re: Spiraling Down the Tubes
« Reply #41 on: September 08, 2009, 03:56:44 PM »
Quote from: Reschke on September 08, 2009, 03:25:11 PM
I will watch it just because it will be NEW BUT it looks like what I now term that abortion of a show called Star Trek: Voyager...it even has the same story line from the trailer about the base/ship getting punted to the other side of the universe when they were under attack.


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Re: Spiraling Down the Tubes
« Reply #42 on: September 08, 2009, 04:20:11 PM »
Voyager lost me long before 7 of 9 showed up.
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Re: Spiraling Down the Tubes
« Reply #43 on: September 08, 2009, 04:52:52 PM »
And yet, no mention of Firefly. :noid IIRC, SciFi (screw you, y's) is the only station still airing it.
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Re: Spiraling Down the Tubes
« Reply #44 on: September 08, 2009, 06:01:23 PM »
Quote from: 4deck on September 07, 2009, 08:08:59 PM
Holy crow are you talking about starblazers the cartoon (Japanese Animation)

Thats a blast from the past. If its the same I watched that like 30 years ago.

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