Author Topic: Spiraling Down the Tubes  (Read 1354 times)

Offline soda72

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Re: Spiraling Down the Tubes
« Reply #45 on: September 08, 2009, 06:44:04 PM »
I will watch it just because it will be NEW BUT it looks like what I now term that abortion of a show called Star Trek: Voyager...it even has the same story line from the trailer about the base/ship getting punted to the other side of the universe when they were under attack.

They had a five minute flick that showed how they would end up stranded, I didn't see any base/ship, but maybe that's where they dialed to.

The acting seemed decent, and the CGI effects looked good. I'll watch the first few episodes and see how it goes from there..

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here's the pilot...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxLT_MWAq-I


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Re: Spiraling Down the Tubes
« Reply #46 on: September 08, 2009, 09:23:26 PM »
  With shows like "Man-squito" and "Malibu SharK Attack" its a wonder they are still on. Id rather see them run old 50s sci-fis like "THEM!".  And like caldera said, the History Channel sux too. "Next the history of the B29(shows cool shots of B29s in action) December 7th 1941..blah blah blah" for 55 minutes. Finishes with a few minutes of the B29.
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Re: Spiraling Down the Tubes
« Reply #47 on: September 08, 2009, 10:41:38 PM »
I think it will be a decent start based on that 5 minute video and the trailer I watched earlier today. I will give it a fair shake but I still think it is the same old thing as Voyager based on the trailer I watched.
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Re: Spiraling Down the Tubes
« Reply #48 on: September 08, 2009, 11:06:35 PM »
I always thought that Voyager should have taken the same approach that FarScape did as far as its execution. They had a vaguely similar premise (explorers being slingshot into a distant part of the galaxy far away from home) but Voyager never had a real sense of danger. FarScape very early on made it clear that Crichton is living in a very dangerous place, and that "Character Shields" didn't really exist (not even main characters like D'Argo, Crais and Zhaan made it through unscathed. Hell, even Crichton and Aeryn died a couple times over the course of the series). It also very quickly got into an arc that helped drive the series, (Wormhole Weapons, tracing its origin to I think episode 8) because while the original premise of Crichton trying to make it home made for a good overall plot, it just wasn't enough on its own to keep the intensity up.

This is why the first halves of seasons 1 and 4 were the weakest. In season 1 it took time to find its footing until they brought in the Ancients and, later, Scorpius, while Season 4 LOST its footing when SciFi meddled with the story (it was their orders to reintroduce the crew a couple at a time). Seasons 2 and 3 were by far the most consistent, because while they weren't without their standalone episodes (Crackers Don't Matter is STILL one of the best episodes of ANY television program I've ever seen) they also focused more heavily and consistently on the Wormhole Weapons plot, which kept the series moving.

Voyager never seemed to REALLY develop that more immediate storyline that FarScape did, at least not until FAR too late for them to do any good with it. The open-endedness of their "We have to get home!" plot worked perfectly for TNG (very loosely arced by the Q episodes) but the formula just couldn't work for Voyager in the same way. This is WITHOUT the handicap of the casting and just the presence of Berman and Braga.
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