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Offline RedTeck

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Re: Logitech G940
« Reply #30 on: December 16, 2009, 10:58:24 AM »
Is it still working?
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Re: Logitech G940
« Reply #31 on: December 16, 2009, 12:47:49 PM »
Is it still working?
I would like to know also.  I have a CH stick just not the rest of the setup right now but I can probably sell that and get this whole system if it's still working and I hear some more positive feedback.
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Re: Logitech G940
« Reply #32 on: December 16, 2009, 02:44:55 PM »
How close together are the pedals?  With my current Logitech pedals they are about 2 big toe widths apart, any closer and I can see why it'd be painful.  Would hate to buy this sometime (when price drops) and not be able to use the new pedals.

One of the reasons  that I switched from CH to Saitek pedals is the Saitek pedals are wider than the CH ones.  I just measured my Saitek rudder pedals, and they are about 13 inches from rear center to rear center of each pedal.  IDK what the CH pedal measure, but I know the Saitek ones are much more comfortable (for me) in that respect.  Saitek are also adjustable for tension, although the adjustment doesn't make that big of a difference as far as I can tell.  Also adjustable for length if that matters.

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Re: Logitech G940
« Reply #33 on: December 16, 2009, 06:15:54 PM »
I love the stick/throttle but the pedals are a little below my CH pro pedals IMO. Mostly due to a much less solid feeling of "centered" and a shorter travel range. Not at all bad but is about on par with going from a stiff spring to a loose one on JS. FFB is exceptional and all parts seem very solid....

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Re: Logitech G940
« Reply #34 on: December 16, 2009, 07:53:56 PM »
Can you mix rudder pedals with the G940?


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Re: Logitech G940
« Reply #35 on: December 16, 2009, 08:43:57 PM »
Can you mix rudder pedals with the G940?


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I don't see why not since each control device registers separately in the game, I'll dig out my pro pedals and double check that over the weekend...

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Re: Logitech G940
« Reply #36 on: December 16, 2009, 09:51:44 PM »
I hope Hitech takes notice of this thread . I hope you guys posting about good buffet feel soon realize it does not work in this game .At all .The FFB has a bug . One that has been around for over a year and half at least . I have researched FFB alot since I started here . I have also been helped to understand even more in recent months . My wingman in this game ,and the very best of friend  wrote his masters thesis on haptics . He is a programmer , and still educating me on the other end of this wonderful stuff . I merely understood what I was supposed to feel . I knew it wasn't right in AH2 my first flight . The buffet effect should be linked to the buffet sound . starting very gentle and gradually increasing as the plane shakes harder . Buffet does not work at all .To test what I am saying turn of stall effect in game ,see how much buffet you get . Stall is also porked . Stall should be linked to stall buzzer as it gets louder stick should get a sloppier feel. That would be a decrease in return to center effect . Becoming less and less as stall horn gets louder . That doesn't happen , since stall buzzer causes ill timed stick buffet . Airspeed ,and trim also do not work correctly . Airspeed increase should cause graduated increase in stick centering force , becoming tighter and tighter as speed increases . That does not happen either . Trim effects is an area , I still have questions in . I am not 100% sure of what it should feel like so I wont say anything I am not sure is correct . The guys that run this thing do not suffer fools gladly , and I hope someday they will fix this . Feeling like the lone voice in the wilderness , I won't risk them totally ignoring me for all time because I ran my mouth when I should have ran my ears . One thing that really discouraged me was when my wingy told me the PROBABLE amount of time to fix it would be . The folks that are HTC state that there is not sufficient interest in FFB for it to become a priority . I think they under estimate that . Run a simple search for FFB in the bbs and look for yourself . I also think <and this is an assumption on my part> they look at it as a gimmick . If that is true , I disagree once again as the military has put device on their fly by wire aircraft called a stick shaker to simulate stick actions that you had by physical linkage . Commercial aviation intrests have also added these to some models of fly by wire , to reduce pilot induced errors . I would love to see a few of you FFB users try my eliminate stall experiment and tell me what you think .

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Re: Logitech G940
« Reply #37 on: December 17, 2009, 01:06:59 AM »
I don't see why not since each control device registers separately in the game, I'll dig out my pro pedals and double check that over the weekend...
They come with rudder pedals . I was hoping they decide to sell them without them .

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Re: Logitech G940
« Reply #38 on: December 17, 2009, 07:12:53 AM »
They come with rudder pedals . I was hoping they decide to sell them without them .

That's what I was thinking as well.

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Re: Logitech G940
« Reply #39 on: December 17, 2009, 12:02:21 PM »
One of the reasons  that I switched from CH to Saitek pedals is the Saitek pedals are wider than the CH ones.  I just measured my Saitek rudder pedals, and they are about 13 inches from rear center to rear center of each pedal.  IDK what the CH pedal measure, but I know the Saitek ones are much more comfortable (for me) in that respect.  Saitek are also adjustable for tension, although the adjustment doesn't make that big of a difference as far as I can tell.  Also adjustable for length if that matters.
It does if you wear size 14 shoes like I do . Saitek pedals are the only ones that have ever been comfortable .

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Re: Logitech G940
« Reply #40 on: December 18, 2009, 01:36:27 PM »
Hlbly I don't understand why you'd want to use spring centering on a FFB stick when you're concerned about realistic behavior.

As to your other points, I haven't noticed any FFB bugs. Maybe the problem is the stick you're using.

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Re: Logitech G940
« Reply #41 on: December 18, 2009, 02:39:19 PM »
As to your other points, I haven't noticed any FFB bugs. Maybe the problem is the stick you're using.

That could be a possibility depending on which force feedback API the stick is compatible with.  When CH had their Force FX joystick, it used the IForce 1.0 API and when games started to use the IForce 2.0 API with more forcefeedback effects, those new effects wouldn't be felt on the Force FX.  The same when games started to use Microsoft's Force Factory API, there were some games that the Force FX wouldn't work in because the API was incompatible with the stick.


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Re: Logitech G940
« Reply #42 on: December 24, 2009, 07:33:53 AM »
Hlbly I don't understand why you'd want to use spring centering on a FFB stick when you're concerned about realistic behavior.

As to your other points, I haven't noticed any FFB bugs. Maybe the problem is the stick you're using.
HTC has acknowledged the bug . Seriously turn everything off but buffet then tell me there is no bug . Do you  think that buffet should be controlled by stall horn ? Spring centering and return to center force are two different things .
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