3 HE tank rounds to kill one town building

[WMLute]

I was in a Sherman at an nme town and killing buildings when I noticed it was taking me 3 HE rounds to drop one building.

Granted, i'm not much of a tanker, but I coulda sworn it only took two HE rounds in a tank to drop a single town building.

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Did this change at some point?

[LCCajun]

It might have changed I remember that it use to take two HE. I don't know though.

[crazyivan]

shermans take 3 HE rounds  panzer, tiger t34/85 takes 2. Don't know about the  t34/76. Place 1 round between adjacent buildings usually get both saves ammo. Hope this helped. 

[OOZ662]

http://trainers.hitechcreations.com/guns/guns.htm

Town building hardness is 250lbs, IIRC.

[Bruv119]

sherman HE has always been weak compared to the 2 rounds for most other tanks.

I've always wondered why this is the case because the AP round will "Blow the bloody doors off"  every other tank   

[WMLute]

http://trainers.hitechcreations.com/guns/guns.htm

Town building hardness is 250lbs, IIRC.

Riddle me this then.

250lbs to kill a town bld.  The trainer page shows the 3" HE round as being equivalent to 140.6lbs in ord.

2 x 140.6 = 281.2

According to that (and my memory) two HE rounds from a Sherman should kill a town building.

So something is wrong here.

Town building hardness is off or the Shermans HE rounds is not 140.6lbs worth of ord.


When I was at the town last night (I forget if this is in the film or not) I would use the Main Gun machine gun and IT would kill the building right after the second round ish.  So give/take 20-40lbs of bullets (i'd have to go back and count).

That being the case, it would put the Sherman HE rounds closer to 120 lbs equiv. which to me sounds way off.

Could someone who checks these things check this please and make sure it isn't just me?

[Getback]

Well, don't try an M8,  

Let me give a hint, Don't shoot any building twice if it's close to another building. Shoot one building and then the one next to it. Often that will take both buildings down.

Wmlute, are you trying a new aspect of the game? Just curious. I know you've been around a good long while.

[WMLute]

Let me give a hint, Don't shoot any building twice if it's close to another building. Shoot one building and then the one next to it. Often that will take both buildings down.

Wmlute, are you trying a new aspect of the game? Just curious. I know you've been around a good long while.

Not in a Sherman it won't.



I occasionally tank.  I usually use an Osti for town killing purposes but I ended up tracked in an nme town last night and that was when I noticed this.  (I was there for revenge on an nme tank that killed my osti last hop)

[Lusche]

The Sherman HE round is still rated 140.6 lbs (0.1406 x 1000 lbs), I just did a offline test to verify that.

However, by looking at the objects list in offline mode I found that the standard value for Town is 0.3125 = 312.5 x1000lbs.

So yes, the Sherman Firelfy needs 3 hits to kill a town building

[Sc00ter]

I was in a Sherman at an nme town and killing buildings when I noticed it was taking me 3 HE rounds to drop one building.

Granted, i'm not much of a tanker, but I coulda sworn it only took two HE rounds in a tank to drop a single town building.

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Use the perked T34. It only takes 2 rounds and if you shoot the building next to those that just blew up it only takes 1 round. OK there's my secret for dropping town with 1 T34. 

[A8HatTrick]

Use and LVT, 1.5 rounds per building. IE 3 rounds two buildings, just hit the edge closest to the second building on your second shot and put the third in the second building. Badda Boom.

[ToeTag]

lvt is the best town buster.  75 mm with a fast rate of fire 

[ACE]

i always thought it was like 1 0r 1

[AKP]

lvt is the best town buster.  75 mm with a fast rate of fire  

Naaw... the Ostwind.  Highest rate of fire for the 37mm in a GV, and loads of ammo.  2 Osties can knock down a town by themselves in under 5 minutes.  If you use the hull MG on the gun batteries,  just one can take 100% of a town down.  

Town Building requires 250lbs of explosives to take down.  Ostwind 37mm = 15.6 lbs of explosives.  So, it takes 16 shots with the ostwind to take down a building... not taking into account that some buildings will be damaged next to the one you are shooting.

Town has 53 buildings in it.  Ostwind has 1000 rounds of 37mm.  So...  1000 rounds / 16 rounds per building = 62.5 buildings worth of "boom boom". This gives you plenty of ammo to wreck a town, and take out the auto guns, and still have your hull MG as a backup.  And... with the rate of fire on the 37mm at 480 rpm...  this makes the time to take down a town in a SINGLE ostwind (assuming you dont have to move and re-aim, and you expend ALL your ammo)... just over 2 minutes.  Taking into account that you have to move, re-aim, some shots will miss, etc...  Lets say 5 minutes.  And that is with ONE Ostwind.  Never seen it done in that time, as you usually end up having to dodge opponents... but it "could" be done.  

Never... never... let an opponents ostwind into your town.

AKA: Homewrecker

[WMLute]

It is actually 20 rounds to kill a town building in an Osti. 

(yeah I count 'em)

Which confirms what Snail said about a town building needing 312.5 lbs to drop it.

But yes that is what I take to drop towns and am rarely in a tank to attack a town hence my ingonrance on the subject.

If i'm in a Sherman it's usually to attack other tanks.  I use the Osti for towns.