At this rate, I may have to cancel my account.

[Karnak]

I'm just getting slaughtered everytime I fly.

I'm getting sick of being insulted, being called a Dweeb and a cheater because I fly the Spitfire.  I'm tired of hearing about Sissyfires, Barbiefires and any other insulting term for the Spitfire (I dare any of thses F4U-1C or Bf109G-10 pilots to fly the Spitfire and keep their kill/death ratio where it is).  I'm tired of the guys flying F4U-1C's, Bf109G-10s and Fw190A-8s and A-5s say how I'm taking an unfair advantage by using angle fighters (which I happen to prefer) all the while they slaughter me.

Why should I pay $30.00 a month for this kind of immature abuse from guys who think that everyone should fly the way they do?
I haven't even hit anything AFAIK in 2 weeks.  This is very frusterating and there doesn't seem to be any lessening of the BS in sight.

I just had my A6M5b tag teamed by two BnZing F4U-1Cs.  I managed to survive till the 4th or 5th pass, even took some hits on the 2nd pass and didn't die.  I don't blame the pilots of the F4U-1Cs, but it is very frusterating, "Oh, gee.  Look, I'm back in the tower.  Yay.  Let's go do it again.".

I would REALLY like to see a angle fighter added that is not a complete sitting duck for every energy fighter out there.  A Spitfire XIV would at least allow me to have a shot at disengaging, but as it is, if I engage in a fight, I die.  Period.  If I try to disengage, the energy fighter will simply chase down my slow Spit or Zero and kill it as I present an easy 6 shot to him.

Dang it.  I'm just very frusterated

But I won't quit yet.

You guys'll have me as a target drone for a bit longer at least.

Sisu
-Karnak

[HaHa]

Get alt - only dive on other angle fighters.

[Karnak]

Zero isn't fast enough and the Spit doesn't have the fuel to loiter.

Sisu
-Karnak

[ra]

What kind of immature abuse would you be willing to pay $30 a month for then?  Maybe we can work something out.

ra

[Westy]

 Try the 190-A5.

    -Westy

[Karnak]

Sorry Westy, I don't fly Nazi aircraft.  That is just something I've never been able to separate.  I don't think that many of those who fly German aircraft have Nazi sympathies, although I have met some in real life.  I just can't separate the two and be comfortable.  Thats why they need to put in a good Allied angle fighter (I'm Finnish extract so Russian fighters don't really work for me either).  We NEED, or at least I NEED, the Spitfire MkXIV.

Sisu
-Karnak

[Swager]

I belong to JG2!  I fly the Spit all the time!  Sure I get rasseled, but I realized it takes massive skill to fly a Spitfire in the MA and survive.  The people who get on your case probably don't have the skill it take to fly the Spit!  So don't worry about it!!  

Actually!  The people who rag on me are usually my own squadmates!    

If they are serious! Then it means they are alittle bit jealous too.  Many of the people who harrass Spit pilots have no idea why they do it.  Basically they are just jumping on a bandwagon, and they have no idea what it is about. I refer to that class of pilot as a "Twit"  

I have had many pilots engage me and when I shoot them down, they scream "Spitdweeb!"

I just smile and carry on!!

One of the objects of this sim is to shoot down enemy pilots. The best way you know how!  If flying a Spit is how you do it best, then so be it!  

Just enjoy, all is good!!  Swager deems it so!    

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XO   I/JG2~Richthofen~[/i]

"Damn.....I can't believe I missed that shot!!!"
 
JG2 "Richthofen"

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[By-Tor]

 Fly whatever you prefer and FORK 'em.
Many BnZers fly the style they do because attacking holding ALL the cards and winning makes them feel better pilots.If you fly a SPIT and they have a prob with it likely its because the superb Spitfire makes there task of an easy kill from the energy adv.difficult.
If you want a REAL blast(in my book),take active part in the dueling ladder and force THEM to fly the Spit too!  
 Hold your head high fellow angle-fighter!

 

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'SCREAM'IN PTERODACTYLS'

[By-Tor]

 Oops! Meant to edit post-not make another  
Preach on Brother Swager!Swager get your butt on The Ladder! I mis ya bud!

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[Wardog]

karnak..

Not sure what your doing wrong, but guys like Mitsu who fly the Spit seem to be doing very well. So well in fact he was up last night in a Zero killin 190a5s..

So,change your tactics or look for a wingman that will complement your own skills. Wingman is the best option by far.

Dog out.........

[BBGunn]

Karnak: I share some your frustration.  I noticed that sometimes when I got a slightly lower shot at another AC head on, I would get kills and at other times I'd ping em pretty good from close range and they just flew away to gain altitude and then blow me away.  I pinged the heck out of a 38 one day with the spit9 and it just flew away like nothing happened.  Maybe its the rubber bullet thing that some folks have mentioned. I also noticed that the rooks seem to dominate the battles to the point that it seems useless to be a Bishop.  A lot of people mentioned  this in the arena.  During my two week trial there was only one stick sturring event-but if guys do it-it just messes the game up to the point where u might as well go to another base etc..  And at times it seems that the knights join the rooks in attacking the bishops.  Three sides seems a little goofy- i think two would be better.  I didn't hear of anyone using the SpitV or the 109F in combat.  I like the flight model on the spitv but the speed of the 51's and firepower of the F4U and Niks pretty much outclass it.  I'd like to see some special events for the zero, spitv and 109F-4 only.  As for continuing on the monthly plan I have not decided for sure but I'm staying out for awhile to see if the game changes much.  Maybe my patience level is less because I'm older but I don't wish to pay 30 bucks/month for a sort of disorganized bash of the same fields over and over.

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[Pongo]

Mitsu has 290 kills and has been killed 34 times in the Spitfire Mk IX.

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That is near 10 to 1

I have a much smaller sample but find myself nearly 5 to 1 in it. I some how managed to out run a coalt low f4u as well...dont know how. Just pointed and floored it.

Looking at your stats you dont seem to be flying much. That would make a big difference.

No fighter of any political persuasion will help you much till you get your hit % above 4% or so.
How many pilots in how many planes in this game do you think could last long against two hi F4Us that were working together and flown well.

You must also have a political aversion to E fighting. The Spit IX is an excellent E fighter. It has excellent climb, excellent guns but you have to be able to hit what you shoot at.

Your spit bought you some time that other planes would not have. A G10 pilot would likly have been dead sooner. Certainly a FW would have been.
If you only fly it in situations where the enemy has that kind of advantage against you you will not likely do better in a spit XIV.

I fly everyday with a pilot that has near 2 to 1 k to d in the Spit IX. I try to make sure he does. That is the big equalizer in this game. It is also the most fun in the game. Find some one who flys the same times as you and try to keep each other alive. The rest you learn with time.

As to you comments about people calling you names..are you for real? I have seen someone called a name about flying spitfires maybe once in 8? months on open channel. On this bbs maybe but its no more common then luftwobbels, nazis, cannondweebs, ponydweeb or anything else.
The spitfire is a phenomonaly easy plane to fly in this game. Maybe the 190A5 will give it a run as it seems a very diversly capable plane as well but YOU must learn to take advantage of its strengths and avoid its weaknesses.
Work on your accuracy. The Spit has phenominal guns. Work on finding some one to keep you alive that is the biggest key living here and in WW2.

[easymo]

 Dont worry about it. There is only one plane in the game noted for running AWAY from a fight. And we all know what that one is.

[Wardog]

easymo is right

109G10 is the guilty of being the a runner when confronted at coalt or even if it has a 5k alt advantge.

2nd most runner is the FW190, if it doenst go for the HO he will run till outa fuel.

Have a nice day  

Dog out............

[Rickenbacker]

What the hell is a "Nazi Aircraft"?
I gave the GF's son a bit of a rant when he kept on calling every german in every wargame a "nazi", but I'll shut up. Just don't think the term applied to every single german nail and belt buckle produced during the war...



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