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Offline wrag

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Re: JU88 Attack version AND a G10
« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2009, 09:39:22 AM »
We already had the G10. It was removed to make room for the K4.

Actually it was a K with 20mm hub and gonds options,  If we had a G10 it would be about 25 mph slower then the K but would preform pretty much the same UNLIKE the G14 which takes for ever to get it's speed back and preforms so poorly above 20K.

several suggest that they convert either the G6 or G14 to the AS version and we would have nearly the same thing.

IMHO it would be far more realistic, and show many just how difficult the allies had it.  Many of the LW pilots were extremely deadly in the 109s and 190s and the number of allied pilots lost show that.

IMHO In AH the allied rides and flyer's got it EASY compared to what actually happened in WWII and if the allies had NOT had such a great numbers advantage the war would have taken MUCH longer!

AND IMHO Later toward the end of the war the LW pilot ranks had been pretty much depleted of the best pilots and many of the newer pilots just didn't have the experience needed.

As has been shown in such Magazines as Flight Journal through ACTUAL test of P51D vs a 109G10 and a 190 against an F6F show the LW planes a good deal more capable then many have believed!

In fact the ONLY advantage the pony had against the 109 was SPEED according to the testers! And the 190 preformed far better then expected against the F6F and surprised MANY people with it's agility!

Apparently the reports of the superiority of 190s against the spit V when they first engaged were NOT exaggerated and resulted in the upgrade to the spit IX.....
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Re: JU88 Attack version AND a G10
« Reply #16 on: September 16, 2009, 10:31:53 AM »
A G10 or an AS would definately be welcome.
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Re: JU88 Attack version AND a G10
« Reply #17 on: September 16, 2009, 10:50:11 AM »
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Re: JU88 Attack version AND a G10
« Reply #18 on: September 16, 2009, 01:55:16 PM »
several suggest that they convert either the G6 or G14 to the AS version and we would have nearly the same thing.

I think that replacing the current G-14 with a G-14A/S would be the best option.  

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IMHO In AH the allied rides and flyer's got it EASY compared to what actually happened in WWII

How so?  In AH there is no great variance in numbers and I dont think any Allied plane has any massive advantages over its appropriate Axis opponent.  

Consider the matchup of the P-51D and the 109K4.  When Im in a K4, I salivate when I see 51's because there isnt a doubt in my mind that I can win the fight.  

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As has been shown in such Magazines as Flight Journal through ACTUAL test of P51D vs a 109G10 and a 190 against an F6F show the LW planes a good deal more capable then many have believed!

In fact the ONLY advantage the pony had against the 109 was SPEED according to the testers! And the 190 preformed far better then expected against the F6F and surprised MANY people with it's agility!

Apparently the reports of the superiority of 190s against the spit V when they first engaged were NOT exaggerated and resulted in the upgrade to the spit IX.....

I have not seen the test data to which you refer, but I do have a copy of the RAF report detailing the testing of the captured 190A3 against the V, IX, Typhoon, Mustang Mk I, etc, etc and the report - written by an RAF senior officer and addressed to RAF senior command - can be summed up as "We're in trouble, this is the best fighter in the world, today."

Point being, I dont think that anyone disputes the superiority of the 190A-3/4/5 over the Spit V.  As you stated, thats why the IX was rushed into service.  The need for IX production to be stepped up is strenuously recommended in the report.  I'll try and post a copy of it when I get home tonight, time allowing.

I guess Im wondering what youre trying to argue?

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Re: JU88 Attack version AND a G10
« Reply #19 on: September 16, 2009, 04:03:49 PM »
IMHO a big part of my argument is there is a hole in the LW lineup that NEEDS ro be plugged.

An AS version of rather then the G14 and or G6 we currently have would probably cure that.

And true while you salivate when you see a pony the best 109 in AH is IMHO operating under a slight, for some and major for others, handycap for MOST AH participants due to the restriction of the 30mm trajectory, velocity, and loadout.

So what I would truly LOVE to see is an AS version of the 14 or 6 or a G10 version with 20mm hub and gonds option. :x :x :x :x
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