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Offline mx22

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« on: March 23, 2000, 12:53:00 PM »
Ok I got my Spit books out and decided to see who's Spit V was modeled in Aces High.
As per "Osprey Aircraft of the Aces 16 - Spitfire Mark V Aces 1941-45" this was Spitfire Mk VB (W3238/PR-B) "The London Butcher" (what a name lol) of Sqn Ldr Michael Robinson, OC No 609 Sqn, Biggin Hill, July 1941.
Again from the same book, "When 'Mickey' Robinson was killed in action leading the Tangmere Wing in April 1942, his victory score was 16 destroyed, 4 and 1 shared probably destroyed and 8 and 1 shared damaged - 8 destroyed, 1 probably and 6 damaged were achieved with MkV." (quote from "Osprey Aircraft of the Aces 16 - Spitfire Mark V Aces 1941-45" by Dr Alfred Price)

Hope noone posted this information before. If so, sorry for the double post.

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« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2000, 07:50:00 PM »
hehe, hey mx22, I posted it about 2-3 weeks ago, from the same book  , I also posted on the Spit IX.  


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« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2000, 11:30:00 PM »
You know I'd really like to see a code starting with "ZF" on that plane...  

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« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2000, 01:29:00 AM »
I say we need a Canadian spit.. or the tiffy.

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« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2000, 09:24:00 PM »
I am acctually kinda surprised that "Johnnie" Johnson's Spit is not "present" in AH - after all he was the highest scoring Spitfire pilot of WW2. Well, hopefully when SpitXIV comes in AH it will be in his colors. Johnson was in command of No 127 Wg (it was equiped with Spit XIVs) starting from April 1945 to the end of the war.

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« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2000, 03:08:00 AM »
If you look closely you will see that JJ did not fly a Mk XIV spit. He flew a Mk V personal plane until late 1944 when it recieved a hit from a FW cannon round in the wingroot. He then flew a MK IX for the majority of the rest of the war. If he ever flew a Mk XIV it was in late '45 near the end of the war after his and other's planes were field strafed in Holland. the vast majority of his kills occurred in his personal Mk V plane he flew from 1942 or so onward.

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« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2000, 03:38:00 AM »
He flew only the Mk V until late 1944?! He must have suckered alot of Luftwaffe pilots into turn fights...

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« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2000, 09:02:00 AM »
 
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Originally posted by Sorrow[S=A]:
If you look closely you will see that JJ did not fly a Mk XIV spit. He flew a Mk V personal plane until late 1944 when it recieved a hit from a FW cannon round in the wingroot. He then flew a MK IX for the majority of the rest of the war. If he ever flew a Mk XIV it was in late '45 near the end of the war after his and other's planes were field strafed in Holland. the vast majority of his kills occurred in his personal Mk V plane he flew from 1942 or so onward.

Sorrow,

If you read my post again, you'll see that I said that he was in command of Spit XIV Wing starting from April 1945. If you think he was flying Spit IX, while the rest of the pilots were in XIV, I think you making a big mistake. Now why I want his XIV, simply because he was the highest scoring Spit pilot, and since Spit5 and Spit9 already have skins, I doubt  HTC will change them.

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« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2000, 10:23:00 AM »
I have a picture of one JEJ(en398). it was a spit IX johnson flew in early 1943 when he took over the Kenley (Canadian)wing. I am looking for pictures of his spit XIV.

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« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2000, 11:24:00 AM »
 
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Originally posted by Pongo:
I have a picture of one JEJ(en398). it was a spit IX johnson flew in early 1943 when he took over the Kenley (Canadian)wing. I am looking for pictures of his spit XIV.

Osprey Aircraft of the Aces 5 has Johnson's SpitIX. Finding SpitXIV would be much harder - he flew in it for only about 1 month before the end of the war in Europe (see my post above) and didn't score in it. I doubt that books that I have will have picture of his Mk XIV, but I'll give it a try when I get home.

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« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2000, 12:26:00 PM »
The Spitfire EN398 I believe shot down more enemy aircraft than any other Spitfire.  It survived the war only to be scrapped.  All under 1 pilot, W/C Johnson.  Johnson shot down most of his kills in a MKIX.

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« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2000, 09:42:00 PM »
Then my apologies, his book is not very clear on planes except to say that he recieved a metal aileron plane in the winter of 1942 and it was his personal plane until the FW shell lodged in the wingroot in '44. He did not fly that plane again but recived a new Mk IX. This was his plane until it was strafed in holland. My assumption was that his plane in '42 would have had to have been a Mk V.

I do not believe he flew a a Mk XIV in combat, he DID probably fly his Mk IX with his squadron..  it was his personal plane and I doubt he would have let it go to fit in.

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« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2000, 11:52:00 AM »
I have the book "Wing Leader".  He did fly the MKXIV with his squadron , but I don't think he flew it in a combat with the enemy.  The Osprey Aircraft book for Late Marque Spitfires explains how many enemy aircraft he shot down with EN398, when with the Canadian Wing.  He left that squadron and after a brief rest went to another MKIX Wing.  This wing also had a squadron of Spitfire MKXII which, I belive, was commanded by Stan Turner.  

I'll look in my book tonite and check it out!

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Rock:  Ya see that Ensign, lighting the cigarette?
Powell: Yes Rock.
Rock: Well that's where I got it, he's my son.
Powell: Really Rock, well I'd like to meet him.
Rock:  No ya wouldn't.