Eric Hartmann was a HO'er...

[JunkyII]

"It takes two, baby.
It takes two, baby.,
just me and you.
You know it takes two.
It takes two, baby.
It takes two, baby,
just me and you."

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COMPLETELY FALSE!!! this is where many people in game are wrong, alot of my deaths come from people getting a lucky should when i am avioding the HO

[dhyran]

I thought eric cartman was that fat kid on southpark??

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You guys got no respect!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_World_War_II_air_aces

take a look at the list, lot of aces fallen during ww2. All HOers? Man, we are playing a game guys, these guys take off each time never knowing if they will make it back, if they would survive.

[BlauK]

COMPLETELY FALSE!!! this is where many people in game are wrong, alot of my deaths come from people getting a lucky should when i am avioding the HO

Then it is not a HO , it is just a frontal hemisphere deflection shot. In a HO, both sides have a shooting solution.

[JunkyII]

Then it is not a HO , it is just a frontal hemisphere deflection shot. In a HO, both sides have a shooting solution.

OK maybe it is not a head on which you are correct but it is a HOT Merge and should be highly frowned upon, like North Koreans..............

[bongaroo]

And so continues the most epic of word battles about the HO!

Dweebs HO.   

[BlauK]

Dweebs HO.   

Among others 

[Reaper90]

Then it is not a HO , it is just a frontal hemisphere deflection shot. In a HO, both sides have a shooting solution.

It is a HO up until one person decides to make a break turn and gives up his gun solution in favor of a clean merge, attempting to claim the advantage post-merge. The other flier then takes advantage with a lucky shot front quarter. Was it a HO? Technically, no. Was it a clean merge? No, and close enough to a HO to be frowned upon IMHO.

HO'er generally are pretty lame. That being said, have I HO'ed? Yep. If I am in a situation where I feel I don't have any choice but a nose-to-nose merge, and I see the other guys guns go hot, you can guarantee I'm gonna be sending 20mm back to him as a "thank you for being a pr!cK" greeting. I won't initiate a HO, but I'll do my best to finish one. 

[waystin2]

[BlauK]

HO can mean and means so many different things to many people. For some it is talking about merge, to others it is about flying about nose to nose in any situation, to some it is a shot in any situation and maybe in about any frontal angle.

I personally understand it as a head on pass (not related only to initial merge) where both planes can shoot at eachother at the same time, and as a shot where one or both shoot at eachother during that previously mentione head on pass.

Maybe there may even be a head on approach in a situation before the shots can be taken. However, if this approach is broken prematurely, there will be no head on pass or head on shot(s).

Also in my view there are always 2 planes in a head on approach and in head on pass. There may also be 2 head on shooters, but sometimes there is only one. In such case, if no prior rules were set, I'll just call the other one naive or adventurous. There is no point flying a head on pass if one has no intent on shooting... because that is the signal he is giving.

Like I've written before, I dont believe that anyone who is the 1st to point his plane at the enemy ever wants or wishes to "HO" the enemy. That option is left to the defending guy. He can choose to "HO" his attacker. Still it is most often these defenders who have then been shot down, who call their opponents "HOers"... go figure

Last but not least, "HO HO" said Santa Claus 

[Steve]

It is a HO up until one person decides to make a break turn and gives up his gun solution in favor of a clean merge, attempting to claim the advantage post-merge. The other flier then takes advantage with a lucky shot front quarter. Was it a HO? Technically, no.

Wrong, it's still a HO. If one person is shot attempting to avoid the HO and the bullets don't happen to hit him in the face, it's still a HO.

[Soulyss]

The problem with having a reliance on the head on attack is that the head on attack is self defeating in the long run.  If every engagement in the cartoon skies is a chance to learn and improve then relying on a tactic that carries such a relatively high chance of ending the engagement before it starts robs the player of the chance to learn something.  It's ultimately self defeating.   

That being said, I think I should mention that there are times when I've taken the head on shot (which I do consider different than a front quarter shot).  But players that go to the head on attack as first choice rather than as a last choice are doing themselves a disservice over the course of time.

[Shuffler]

Yup I Duck a head on as much as I can but if they keep only trying a head on at some point I Quack and shoot back.

[LLogann]

To ho is to ho........................... ............

Bottom line is, if you're flying level 12 at somebody, doesn't matter if you're one of the AH aces, who do not ho..... All that matters is your there, right there.  Do you expect the other not to fire?  Then you're just silly.... Perhaps stupid......

I've merged with some of the good guys in this game.  At 2k we are dead 12, at 1.5 he teeters left, so i teeter right...... AT 1k now it is clear that we will pass, and we do.  But if you lack ACM and remain head-on and not fire.....  There is no excuse for that, that's just you living in a fantasy world other then this fantasy world.

That's the way I see. 

And yes, I'll ho you every time.  Learn how to merge.  ANd for goodness sake, don't complain about your lack of ability.

 

[BlauK]

Wrong, it's still a HO. If one person is shot attempting to avoid the HO and the bullets don't happen to hit him in the face, it's still a HO.

Well, here we have one more definition for HO... "it is still a HO"... and what exactly does the HO stand for in that sentence? Head On ...what? Even if a person turns his butt to your guns you are a HOer, because you approached the person from his frontal hemisphere? Or where exactly does the line go?
 
I do not happen to agree with this one, but it only shows that HO can mean just about anything to different people. That makes arguing and whining about HO and HOers quite useless, doesn't it? 

[Steve]

That makes arguing and whining about HO and HOers quite useless, doesn't it?  

  The people who HO are immediately putting themselves at a disadvantage in the fight and they are most often easy victims  Look at LLogan, he HO's every time he gets the chance(his words). 1V1, I'd bet money he's an easy kill. While LLogan's looking for a HO gun solution, an experienced stick will avoid the HO and already be working on his first post merge move.  

Sure LLogan will "win"  a fight now and then with a HO, but have him run into an experienced stick and he'll be defensive then quickly killed, post merge.