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Offline Jayhawk

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Bomber Spread
« on: September 16, 2009, 10:53:39 AM »
I thought I had read this topic before but wasn't able to find anything too specific searching the threads. 

I would like to see the ability to control the spread of bomber formations.  Simple enough, I think you all know what I'm talking about.  Could bring bombers in real tight for maximizing efficiency of the ords on specific targets:



Or loosen them up for targets like towns and strats (especially if HTC changes the zone system like he proposed http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,273567.0.html)



Prop wash could be a concern with the tight formation if that matters to you guys, although we don't see prop wash in any other parts of the game. 

The tight formation would limit defensive guns obviously, and it would probably be a good idea to limit the effectiveness with a loose formation as well.

Let me know whatcha think or point me to a thread that already discusses this and I'll shut up.  :D
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Re: Bomber Spread
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2009, 11:45:02 AM »
The "Box" is there for a reason....................

But with that said, this ain't a bad idea.

Widen a bit for town coverage is a great example of why it would be good.
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Re: Bomber Spread
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2009, 12:04:15 PM »
First off, I like the idea.  But there is no reason to limit the gun effectiveness in any other way than by the formation itself.  Meaning, the effectiveness of the guns will vary depending on the formation.

Also... I would like to see crosshairs of where the other bombers in your formation are going to drop when you are looking through the bombsight.  After all, you are really playing the role of the bombardier in all 3 planes at the same time.

The formations could be changed in flight with something as simple as a .formation command.  Here is an example of what I am talking about.









Some may say that being able to see the crosshairs for the other bombers is a little too cheezy... and I can see that point.  But even if you didnt have the crosshairs for the other bombers on your screen, you would know just based on which formation you had selected about where the other two are going to drop, and with practice, would be able to pinpoint several targets in one pass.

If variable formations were implemented, it would also be nice to be able to select which bombers in your formation will drop their bombs, and which wont.  Just another simple command really.  Something like: .drop 1.2.3 would be for all 3 bombers to release on command, while .drop 1.3 would be telling just bombers 1 & 3 to release.  Because by spreading the formation, you may have the need to keep one of the bombers from dropping, since it wouldnt be hitting anything of value.
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Re: Bomber Spread
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2009, 12:36:28 PM »
Why dont you just ask for JDAM's and be done with it?

To be able to drop a single 50 kg bomb (times three) and destroy a radar, at 39,000 feet is a bit unrealistic wouldn't you say?

Yet in the main arenas it can be done with nearly 100% success rate provided the target is visible.

If you get different bomber formations can I have semi-realistic bomb dispersal?

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Re: Bomber Spread
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2009, 01:24:59 PM »
So......  The truth here is you are asking for wind Strip.  Bomb accuracy is so good because we never have to worry about the wind.  PERIOD. 


If you get different bomber formations can I have semi-realistic bomb dispersal?

And when was the last time you were up in 24's at 39k?   :D
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Re: Bomber Spread
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2009, 01:34:07 PM »
Why dont you just ask for JDAM's and be done with it?

To be able to drop a single 50 kg bomb (times three) and destroy a radar, at 39,000 feet is a bit unrealistic wouldn't you say?

Yet in the main arenas it can be done with nearly 100% success rate provided the target is visible.

If you get different bomber formations can I have semi-realistic bomb dispersal?

First, 39,000 is a bit of a exaggeration, I'll go up to 30,000 every once in a while but I'm not shooting for a radar with a 50kg bomb there.  Anyway, like LLogann said, wind is not a factor, that is something that effects everyone. 

But besides that, yes the accuracy is darn good but I think that helps balance the game.  No one would take up bombers if they only had a small chance of doing any damage, especially at 20k. 
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Re: Bomber Spread
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2009, 02:05:02 PM »
First, 39,000 feet isn't an exaggeration, the Ki-67's ceiling is 39,000. Just for the challenge I took out radars all the way to knit HQ last week. I had to come down so a Dora could catch me, his ceiling was only 36k.

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Wind does not effect accuracy, it effects precision......yes there is a difference between the two.

I am asking for bomb dispersion.

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