Chuck Yeager was a HOer

[WMLute]

(holy necrobump)

I have ho'd and will ho in the future.

Heck, I was just lifing off a field today and ho'd the snot out of a zeke trying to vulch me.

What I don't, and will never do, is use the ho for anthing other than a super rare desperation move.

The complaint I think most peope have are the pilots that use the HO, and pretty much ONLY the HO, to attack the nme.

Granted I enjoy the "only HO" types as I get to dictate the first couple moves in the fight because of their (poor) choice of tactic.

I can usually count on one hand the deaths I have in a tour by being ho'd.  (out of the 1,000's that try)

I have not, nor will ever say, I won't HO you, 'cause in the right circumstances I am gonna.

[WGUtah]

I saw the three month prompt too.  But, in AH the Ho is a minute by minute topic.  It never goes away. LOL

[33Vortex]

It's like the itch to the community, scratching a open wound.

Stupidity defined. Like someone said, if my gunsight is on you I WILL FIRE. What I do not do however is intentionally go for a HO shot, because it's suicidal and is to be considered a stupid and desperate move. But hey... some people are stupid, it's THAT simple.

[Hungry]

Regardless IMHO I preferred the no HO style of play.

I was in a Brewster with two enemy cons at a base I had just taken down the spit and was working position on a P47 when up he comes and Ho's me I was slower and didn't have the chance to roll off. 

In another case again alone with three enemy cons I was in an F4u i think and I was playing dodge ball the whole fight I had e and I was making them chase me, each pass they made was an ho attempt.  Finally it allmost seemed in unison they looped up came straight at me and as I pulled right to avoid another ho pass his guns allready firing one of them pulled in to me and hit me front quarter only because I tried to avoid another HO.  He wouldn't admit it was a lame 3-1 thing to do because in his mind it was front quarter but if I hadn't tried to evade it would have been HO all they way.

The default in AH is to HO deal with it.

[thorsim]

a Ho is a gift from the stupid or desperate to the prepared ...

i don't wok for them but give me a shot and i will take it ...

the only problem is if i get worse then i give, but hey at 4-1 i figure ...

i owe you all one or two back now and again and try not to cry over getting killed ...

besides i have squaddies to yell at if i get killed

BTW as i recall the HO is how Yeager got shot down so he is a "Looser HO"   

[BnZs]

I imagine the HO you see most often is the one I do, a spixteen or the like, seeing that you have cut across the corner for an angle and snapshot opportunity on their break-turn, decides to honk back even harder on the stick and turn it into a HO. Nevermind that pointing showing you their profile and doing a well-timed guns jink would result in a successful defense and possible reversal 90% of the time.... In this case, I think we can agree that it is well worth going down yourself to send them back to the tower more educated.

a Ho is a gift from the stupid or desperate to the prepared ...

i don't wok for them but give me a shot and i will take it ...

the only problem is if i get worse then i give, but hey at 4-1 i figure ...

i owe you all one or two back now and again and try not to cry over getting killed ...

besides i have squaddies to yell at if i get killed

BTW as i recall the HO is how Yeager got shot down so he is a "Looser HO"   

[JunkyII]

HO is a piss poor tactic, unlike Lute who can count on hand how many times he gets killed by a HO, I cant.


This can be put into the same category as Hordes, toolshedders, and gangers because the person using a HO is going for the path of least resistance. Most everyone can pass someone preform an immelman and shot another guy on the second merge HO. I dont do it when Im getting ganged because it will give me bad habits for when I'm just furballing. It would behoove you to  pass up the HO and learn to fight for a shot  or your enemies 6

[33Vortex]

I shoot from any angle and position I think I have a decent chance of hitting. Avoiding the head-on simply because he has his guns pointing at me, and that is the ONLY reason.

[thorsim]

yea either that or i get the aspect wrong and realize too late that the guys is headed right for me, or a scissor that turns HO as we turn into each other, or a merge in the vertical after a rope a dope goes badly, that is when i get caught mostly.

if a guy is just coming down the pipe i will roll around his axis and get a head start on the maneuver fight.  maybe  spit some at him first.  i do sometimes plow ahead, but not often, it's a mood thing ...

you know those  "do you feel lucky today, punk"  moments ...



oh and don't forget a ducked ho is an excellent extension technique, work a scissor to almost head on then when you are headed the way you want to go just duck the shot and keep going ...

^^^^^ that gets me out of all sorts of trouble all the time ...

I imagine the HO you see most often is the one I do, a spixteen or the like, seeing that you have cut across the corner for an angle and snapshot opportunity on their break-turn, decides to honk back even harder on the stick and turn it into a HO. Nevermind that pointing showing you their profile and doing a well-timed guns jink would result in a successful defense and possible reversal 90% of the time.... In this case, I think we can agree that it is well worth going down yourself to send them back to the tower more educated.

[Masherbrum]

HO is good

So then why do I have film of you ranting on 200 about "Yeager turning, firing in HO before me and being hypocritical to your post?"   

[CAP1]

It's like the itch to the community, scratching a open wound.

Stupidity defined. Like someone said, if my gunsight is on you I WILL FIRE. What I do not do however is intentionally go for a HO shot, because it's suicidal and is to be considered a stupid and desperate move. But hey... some people are stupid, it's THAT simple.

had a good fight with hlblly the other night. i think during that fight, i had at least 2 chances i could've ho'd him. he had the same.
 yet not a single ho shot fired. it ended up making an awsome fight.......

[dedalos]

all i wants to point on, stop complaining, learn to fly, life with HOs Ganging, pickers and much more!!!

Did Chuck Yearger complains he was shot down by 3 190, did he talk about ganging there? 

Guys, learn to deal with you own faults! respect the defeat! when someone shoot me down, the first thing i do is asking myself, what went wrong, where was my fist wrong decission

I am guessing what you did wrong was that you missed the HO and then could not run away? 

I did not realize that this was real life war and that Yearger was setting the standards of contact in a video game 70 years ago 

[jd]

HO HO HO, Merry Christmas. :banana:Tis always the season for HO'ing. especially if your in a 262 , try me.



MajChaos

[CAP1]

yea either that or i get the aspect wrong and realize too late that the guys is headed right for me, or a scissor that turns HO as we turn into each other, or a merge in the vertical after a rope a dope goes badly, that is when i get caught mostly.

if a guy is just coming down the pipe i will roll around his axis and get a head start on the maneuver fight.  maybe  spit some at him first.  i do sometimes plow ahead, but not often, it's a mood thing ...

you know those  "do you feel lucky today, punk"  moments ...



oh and don't forget a ducked ho is an excellent extension technique, work a scissor to almost head on then when you are headed the way you want to go just duck the shot and keep going ...

^^^^^ that gets me out of all sorts of trouble all the time ...

gave up on your other thread?

what's your ingame name?

[Shuffler]

As I look down this list, I see names who are claiming how great a pilot they are because "THEY DON'T HO!" and that ho'ing is only for those who are not very good pilot's.  Well bologna on that!  I know with certainty that many of those who are claiming they don't ho have, well shall we say "fired at me first from a frontal shot" (HO< HO< HO).  

I have been double crossed enough now that my devout policy is: "If my gunsight is on you--I WILL pull the trigger, period!"

If you get HO'd by me I was returning fire. If I'm slow and can't get out of your way and you fire... guns on.

Bottom line... in a game for fighting why not fight. Anyone can Ho.