favortie plane?

[curry1]

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[JunkyII]

Zero, Brewster, Hurricane and a few other planes easily out turn the Ki-84.

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only the zero can keep up in vert though brewster and hurri would get ate up in a merge with a KI

[Nemisis]

I gota go with the P-47D-40/N. I know it's not really a dogfigher, but still, YOU GOT EIGHT FRIGIN' .50's!!!!!!!

[Ack-Ack]

only the zero can keep up in vert though brewster and hurri would get ate up in a merge with a KI

You said the Ki-84 was the best turn fighter in the game and I listed a couple of planes that can easily out turn the Ki-84.  Now you're changing your argument to 'vertical' fighting. 

In a angles fight, any of those planes I mentioned will be all over a Ki-84 if the Ki-84 was dumb enough to turn with those planes.  The Ki driver would have to use its better vertical performance to over come the better turning performance of those other planes.  But in a turn fight, Ki-84 loses against those planes I listed.


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[uptown]

P51D. Beautiful lines, great ord & fuel load out, high speed flaps, dives awesome, bubble canopy, outstanding skins. Did i mention she's fast too?

The B17 because she looks like what bombers are supposed to look like. Tough as rawhide.

The 38J because of the challenge it is for me. She can leave you elated and break your heart all in the same sortie. Best sounding aircraft in the game.

[SectorNine50]

Mine is the P-51B/C as well.  I love that thing in-game and in person they are just way too pretty!

My favorite bomber is the B-25...  Not really for it's performance, but I think it's an absolutely gorgeous aircraft.

[Rebel]

Why does everyone fly the D-11 or D-40 instead of the N? The N is faster, right? Is the D-11 and D-40 more manuverable?

Well, Jug guys that fly the D-11 are out to fight.  End of story.  We go in and dogfight with a 7 ton airplane and actually enjoy it.  So far, therapy has failed us.  Medication is being developed.

The D-40 is heavier, but climbs better, and when you see one, most likely it's out to flatten the nearest major city with it's ord.  Oh yeah, and it has dive flaps.  It features more fuel, too. It doesn't turn as well as the D-11, isn't as stable in low speed maneuvers, in my experience it doesn't hold on to speed like the D-11 does (greater drag with that bubble top).  D-25 is the in-between.  Lighter then a 40, heavier then an 11, same drag problems, but an improved climb rate thanks to the paddle-prop and upgraded engine. Some extra gas, but not as much as a D-40 if I remember right.

The -11 is also faster then the other D Jugs, and accelerates better in a dive, holds on to energy a bit better, and is generally more "fighter" then "fighter-bomber". 

The N, however...

The N is a very mixed bag.  She was made for the long ranges involved in the Pacific, and they thought it a great idea to stuff gas in the wings.  No, they didn't have room, so they just made 'em bigger.  A lot bigger.  Your guns are farther out, making convergence a tricky issue, and leading to some very unintuitive solutions when at greater and shorter ranges then your conv setting. 

However, since they stuffed her full of gas, they thought it'd be a great idea to upgrade the power of the engine.  Like 700hp worth.  78" hg at the manifold, and it's a HUGE boon in performance gains.  She is MUCH faster across the board.  For 5 minutes.

But you pay a hefty price.  To stuff all that gas you need gas tanks, space, and that means weight.   A LOT of weight.  Even at WEP, the N doesn't climb for crap.  She'll dive, she'll roll, she'll zoom, she'll even run down a Mustang, but she won't climb. 

To me, the 11 is a more then capable airframe- the stability and lighter weight, coupled with the lower drag means that I can run down anybody...because I always come to the fight with an E-advantage.  Typically, I'll arrive at the party 5,000 feet above the quarrel, and dive in, and then zoom out before my energy margin runs too thin.  Or just dive and extend, whichever.  She's plenty fast, handles terrifically at speed, and is more then capable of putting up a fight against anyone provided you have that initial alt advantage. 

Maybe I haven't given the bubble-tops their fair shake yet.  Maybe I'm an old school "purist" and like flying a 1943 a/c in a 1944/5 dominated arena.  Whatever it is, I love my razorback   I'd LOVE to have a D-23 or an M Jug. 

[Karnak]

Spitfire and Mosquito.  Both very good at what they did and very elegant lines.

[Anaxogoras]

Rebel, speak for yourself.  I spank the crap out of D-11s when I fly the P-47N.  It's a far better airplane, both for energy fighting and mixing it up.  I tested this once with a comparable pilot.  We dueled in both aircraft, and in all trials the pilot in the N beat the pilot in the D-11.  I think it more or less convinced him of the N's superiority, as before that he was with you in believing the D-11 to be the better Jug.

For my part, the D-11 is too slow to be very competitive in the LWMA.

[Nemisis]

Rebel, speak for yourself.  I spank the crap out of D-11s when I fly the P-47N.  It's a far better airplane, both for energy fighting and mixing it up.  I tested this once with a comparable pilot.  We dueled in both aircraft, and in all trials the pilot in the N beat the pilot in the D-11.  I think it more or less convinced him of the N's superiority, as before that he was with you in believing the D-11 to be the better Jug.

For my part, the D-11 is too slow to be very competitive in the LWMA.

And that is why I've always skiped to the N as well. I didn't KNOW it was better, but I had that nagging feeling in the back of my mind. And a plane that carry's 1 500lb bomb when it's later versions carry 5 times that much doesn't seem very dangerous, or at least powerful. But thanks for clearing that up for me. I know I'm well based when I choose the N from now on.

[Spikes]

And that is why I've always skiped to the N as well. I didn't KNOW it was better, but I had that nagging feeling in the back of my mind. And a plane that carry's 1 500lb bomb when it's later versions carry 5 times that much doesn't seem very dangerous, or at least powerful. But thanks for clearing that up for me. I know I'm well based when I choose the N from now on.

You backed up your statement when you said that heheh.

I like the D11 because I feel I'm in a better turning plane and I don't feel like Im lugging 3K of ord around (even if I'm not)...the D11 just feels lighter to me in fights.

[MjTalon]

Just for the record. The N may be better on paper but I prefer the D-11. More history behind the razorback.

 

[Anaxogoras]

Just for the record. The N may be better on paper but I prefer the D-11.

Oh come on now, you're the one who I was dueling, and you and I both did better in the N.  It's not just better on paper, it's better in fact.

[Rebel]

Oh come on now, you're the one who I was dueling, and you and I both did better in the N.  It's not just better on paper, it's better in fact.

It may be better all across the board.  But it's only that way for 5 minutes.   Once you run out of WEP, you're a dog.   Plain and simple.

What loadouts were you using, just out of curiosity?

I acknowledged the superior climbs and ord capabilities of the other bubbletops, and I acknowledged the N's vast superiority in performance under WEP. 

It's not a rip on the N Jug, dude, don't take it so personal

For my part, the D-11 is too slow to be very competitive in the LWMA.

Under it's own power,  at low altitudes, yes.  Yes it is.  However, if it got down low from say 6,000 feet in an unloaded WEP punched dive, she'll run away from pretty much anything.  If she drags, she has a terrific oppurtunity to pitchback suddenly and take the drooling fools behind her by surprise

Shot me down an LA7 and a Mustang that way about a year ago.

Now get her up high.  Nothing beats the Jugs up there.  And the N comes into a class of her own, giving the -4 hawg a run for her money.

[BnZs]

Oh come on now, you're the one who I was dueling, and you and I both did better in the N.  It's not just better on paper, it's better in fact.

D-11 DOES sustain a better rate and radius of turn. Not that I don't believe you about the N being better because of more thrust and higher top speed. What the D-11 does better is pull some scissor-voodoo on the world's dumbest Spit and let one feel all self-congratulatory for the kill, despite the fact that tactically it was a dirt dumb move that quite possibly leads to you being killed by the other 5 bandits if any are there, and despite the fact that for every time one pulls something like that off there is another time where the Spit pilot has a functioning central nervous system and gets ye....