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Offline Anaxogoras

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Re: favortie plane?
« Reply #45 on: September 25, 2009, 11:46:49 AM »
I can get a slightly better turn rate in the N than the D-11.  Radius will be a little bigger though.

It's not a rip on the N Jug, dude, don't take it so personal ;)

Sorry, I didn't like the generalization about D-11 pilots wanting to fight more than N pilots. :P

Loadouts were 50% fuel for both, IIRC, 8 gun package without extra ammo.

If any of you want a P-47D-11 - P-47N matchup to try it for yourself, I'd be happy to oblige.  The main reason for the N Jug's superiority seems to be vertical performance.
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Re: favortie plane?
« Reply #46 on: September 25, 2009, 11:51:57 AM »


Loadouts were 50% fuel for both, IIRC, 8 gun package without extra ammo.



Wow...and that test is actually unfair to the N because it carries so much more fuel at 50%. Interesting results.
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Re: favortie plane?
« Reply #47 on: September 25, 2009, 12:00:52 PM »
Wow...and that test is actually unfair to the N because it carries so much more fuel at 50%. Interesting results.

Yep, that boost in power is NOT small, and is one of the largest in the game. 

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Sorry, I didn't like the generalization about D-11 pilots wanting to fight more than N pilots.

Loadouts were 50% fuel for both, IIRC, 8 gun package without extra ammo.

If any of you want a P-47D-11 - P-47N matchup to try it for yourself, I'd be happy to oblige.  The main reason for the N Jug's superiority seems to be vertical performance.


Well, I bet if you got her upstairs a bit, and cranked on the WEP, yeah it'd be better. 

That's interesting.  50% fuel for both, eh?  That 2800 is doin her job well then.

Suit yourself.  Razorback's still better :P
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Re: favortie plane?
« Reply #48 on: September 25, 2009, 01:18:40 PM »
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Re: favortie plane?
« Reply #49 on: September 25, 2009, 06:49:56 PM »
Just for the record. The N may be better on paper but I prefer the D-11. More history behind the razorback.

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It may be better all across the board.  But it's only that way for 5 minutes.   Once you run out of WEP, you're a dog.   Plain and simple.

Not nessicarily true, it will still outdive most planes without WEP, and uphigh, its still a pretty good plane. WEP isn't the be all and end all of fights. It helps, but it doesn't ensure you win.

What loadouts were you using, just out of curiosity?


Ummm, 50% fuel, center DT, bombs and rockets on the wings, overload gunpackage for the 8 .50's, if you want 6 .50's just the the P-51D.  I burn internal fuel first to where I have enought to make it back assuming 15-20 mins of combat. Then I switch to the DT and burn that untill I engage at which point I ditch it. The reason being you don't have to wait to burn the fuel to get lighter, all you have to do is dich the DT.


 

Under it's own power,  at low altitudes, yes.  Yes it is.  However, if it got down low from say 6,000 feet in an unloaded WEP punched dive, she'll run away from pretty much anything.

True of a lot of planes. Yeah the P-47 dives better because she's got all that weight behind her, but say, if you dive in a heavy P-38, you'll get much the same result when compared to planes worse in a dive.


Now get her up high.  Nothing beats the Jugs up there.  And the N comes into a class of her own, giving the -4 hawg a run for her money.

True, up high, the Jugs OWN. At their optimum alt, jugs'll beat about anything you meet, provided you don't suck and your not facing an ace, with the exception of the jets.
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Re: favortie plane?
« Reply #50 on: September 25, 2009, 09:05:24 PM »
FW 190 A8, Rolls like a demon and can punch VERY hard...
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« Reply #51 on: September 25, 2009, 09:49:16 PM »
shade :noid....
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Re: favortie plane?
« Reply #52 on: September 28, 2009, 09:01:15 PM »
Stick me in a ME109, a Zero, or a FW 190A8 and I'll be in heaven :aok

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Re: favortie plane?
« Reply #53 on: September 29, 2009, 09:07:13 AM »
109-g2 best fighter plane in the game in my humble opinion. Not many planes that it cannot beat one on one. Used to be the 38, but... a 38 is toast to a well flown 109g2 1 vs 1. (flew the 38 as my main ride for 6 months or more, not saying there are not pilots that can beat me in a 38, but a good stick in a 38 and a good stick in a 109g2, the g2 will win.)

Side note, the 110C is a surprizingly nimble fighter, easy kill if you know that before hand but still. dont know why I thought of that.

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Re: favortie plane?
« Reply #54 on: September 29, 2009, 10:17:57 AM »
A6M5 for me.  Nothing beats the thrill of twisting and turning while fighting two or three at a time and still managing to get kills. 

Saburo Sakai once stated in an interview that fighting American planes in a Zero was like fighting an armored knight wearing only a loin cloth and armed with a dagger.

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Re: favortie plane?
« Reply #55 on: September 29, 2009, 09:24:55 PM »
A6M5 for me.  Nothing beats the thrill of twisting and turning while fighting two or three at a time and still managing to get kills. 

Saburo Sakai once stated in an interview that fighting American planes in a Zero was like fighting an armored knight wearing only a loin cloth and armed with a dagger.

"If you're alone and meet a lone Zero run like hell, because you're outnumbered" - Joe Foss  USMC

Your only landing those kills if I'm not in the area shooting your wing off. Zeros are easy kills if you fight them right.

Damn strait you only got a dagger. And American planes (particularly the hellcat, and P-47) can dish it out AND take it.

Good thing like 95% of fighters can run from one.


Hey, was anyone in the LW arena around the 11Th, or 12Th (sometime around there) when that base got mobbed by zeros? I think I might have a vid of it. Seriously, like 99% zeros with a hellcat, seafire, or C-hog in for variate's sake.
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Re: favortie plane?
« Reply #56 on: September 30, 2009, 10:18:25 AM »
Your only landing those kills if I'm not in the area shooting your wing off. Zeros are easy kills if you fight them right.

That is the beautiful thing about flying the Zero, most players see an "easy kill" and in turn are killed easily!  I just have to grin when I land kills consisting of 190's, P-51's, P-47's, and Spit16's.

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Re: favortie plane?
« Reply #57 on: September 30, 2009, 12:22:04 PM »
That is the beautiful thing about flying the Zero, most players see an "easy kill" and in turn are killed easily!  I just have to grin when I land kills consisting of 190's, P-51's, P-47's, and Spit16's.

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Most players see it as an easy kill because it is.  As long as you don't get suckered into a luftberry turn fight against a Zeke, it's a relatively easy kill.

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Re: favortie plane?
« Reply #58 on: September 30, 2009, 04:27:19 PM »
Most players see it as an easy kill because it is.  As long as you don't get suckered into a luftberry turn fight against a Zeke, it's a relatively easy kill.

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Thats pretty much what I was saying. My attitude toward the zeros are "screw it, I ain't turning, I'll BnZ the guy and see how he likes that.
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Re: favortie plane?
« Reply #59 on: September 30, 2009, 05:18:43 PM »
Zeke is not an easy kill with a good pilot in it, although practically anything can leave the fight at will when it isn't going their way. The REAL problem you face though, is if the Zeke pilot, good, bad or indifferent, realizes you won't play his game and decides to simply swap ends and HO on every pass, which thing he can easily do. Then you have your choice of destroying the fool while likely taking bad damage himself or just finding a less asinine target.
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