Any plane on introducing KI-84 and FW190 D9?

[Naudet]

Is HTC planning to introduce this widely used planes in AH?? And if possible modeled right?
Atm i am still looking for a Sim were i can find a well modeled FW190. Both were real Hotrods in the air, but the D9 is a flying brick in the sims it is developed in, and the KI 84 would be nice to fly.  

If HTC needs info about the FW190 D9, i have a few .jpgs of 3 original FW documents, one showing D9 speed curves, the 2nd showing climbcurves and the 3rd showing performance of the whole FW190 series up to the TA152.

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[RAM]

Mail them to me, I'd love to see them  

ebringas@airtel.net

[Kirin]

Hey Naudet,

post them here!!! You can see how to do it on the left side saying *UBB Code is ON* If you have trouble just ask away...

BTW, what is your source?

[brady]

  HEY NAUDET, it's me PG_bradys, are u defecting???, hope so come fly for the Bishops ,AG told me all about the Dora 9 data, post it mate, also they have been talking about adding the D-9, and a Ta 152 as a perk plane, The frank has been mentioned to

          Brady

[LJK Raubvogel]

Don't listen to Brady, come to Knightlandia, the country for real pilots   Good to see you again Naudet.

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LJK_Raubvogel
LuftJägerKorps

[brady]

  Knightlandia...cough...gag... cough...the most vexing thing about the Knights (other than their #'s)is that have too many High Quality squads like LJK...Bishops are the WTG.

     Brady

[Naudet]

Here are the data sheets for climb and speed:

 

 

[maik]

coole Info Naudet, danke  .

Komm rueber zu den Knights und halt nach dem jg54 Ausschau.

Maik

[juzz]

Awesome! Just watch out RAM doesn't try to kiss/hug you or something  

WTF is No.3 in the speed chart? Is that 400mph at sea level?!

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[Westy]

 CC Brady.  AH is not pro-US as we only have one version of three fighters. Although they did have two US bombers added. Not rare ones by any means though. The USSR and Japanese are far and away the least represented.
 Give em time. They'll get the ones we're all looking to have added, and more.
 
-Westy

[juzz]

Interesting...

Without MW 50, the D-9 in the charts is quite close to the AH P-51D in performance.

D-9 is about 10mph slower at all altitudes except between 15,000ft and 20,000ft, where they are about even.

P-51D climbs a bit(~100fpm) better below 12,000ft, but then the D-9 is slightly better from there up to 20,000ft, where they become equal.

With MW 50, the D-9 is everywhere superior.  

[niklas]

Keep in mind that those speed values are with etc504, which is a mechanical system to carry cylindrical external loads

etc500 of 109F: (from www.unsere-luftwaffe.de)

 

so those very interesting charts are for Jabos. Without etc504 the 190 would be a bit faster.
MW50 WAS standard in 190D9. 190D9 turnrate was much improved over 190A series, 190D9 outturned Me109G btw.

Naudet, was steht in dem horizontalgeschwindigkeitsbil d genau oben in der Tabelle zu den einzelnen Punkten in "motorbeanspruchung"? Ich kann nicht alles genau entziffern.

niklas

[Kirin]

Vielen, vielen Dank Niklas...  

always wondered if HTC modeled parasite drag and weight of the ETC...  !!! Flying the A8 without droptank to save drag and weight (if it's modeled)

HTC, please enlighten us if letting DT behind helps the plane (a bit)...  

[Naudet]

There is a good page on the FW190D9 that uses this chart and also a few more, there are translations and a table that also includes the info on the use of GM-1 in the D9, all speeds are translated into mph and ft.

the URL is http://jagdhund.freeyellow.com/FW190D-9/Dora.html

[Naudet]

I also have another chart that shows all FW190 series aircraft.

 

As u can see the time to 10 km is 16,8 with combat power (could be used for up to 30mins), this is the time u normally find in sources about the D9, the best time to 10km is only 12,5 min with MW50.
This is the reason why the D9 was (in my opinion) the best WW2 piston engined fighter, it could outclimb and outdive the allied fighter (yes even the Spit XIV, especially when using MW50.

And it turned better than the FW190A or the ME 109G, which would mean it could turn a stang and is not far behind a Spit.