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Offline Tilt

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« Reply #15 on: May 22, 2001, 12:53:00 PM »
I am still struggling with the La7 due to a poor ACM technique in certain areas. In terms of what other aircraft scare me most I am afraid other La 7's are not on the list.

The advantage of the La 7 is that if your not mission based you can choose your fight.

Having said that the only stuff I have not found any real answer for when in competant hands are higher 109's and Spits.

Historically there would be a case for perking the 3 cannon La7 (they were not that common at the front)but it does not  seem to be set up that way the same as the Chog/hog is.

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« Reply #16 on: May 22, 2001, 02:09:00 PM »
Me-thinks that the people saying to perk the La7 are the ones that see the La7's running away out of gun range at low alt same way the Runstangs and Typhoons do.

The La7 has some serious deficiences that make it less than a super-plane:
- above 12K, or thereabouts, it becomes less than average, by 18K it becomes easy food for anyone else.
- the guns have a max range of about D400.  I consider anything over D300 a long shot.  For hispanos that would only be medium range.
- it doesn't turn that well, better than most BnZ'r, but not in the calibre of a real TnB'r.  Since it can't really afford to hang out too high, it gets caught at mid alt a lot and has to look for low cons (mostly).
- the views from the cockpit are terrible.  Even customizing them they are still terrible.  Lots of frames holding the windows together to the sides and back.
- it seems to have weak wings and tail to damage.  A couple of fair pings and you've lost one, or the other.
- has a snapshot capability that isn't as good as a 2 hispano Spit, though appears more effective than some of the LW birds (just my person opinion on that).  4 hispano Typhoons will eat you up.

The La7 is a good plane, and a handful to an opponent down low, especially for N1K's and Spit's which it can easily out-run whenever it wants to.  I don't think it needs to be perked, at least not yet.  Let it try and earn a reputation and some kill numbers to back it up before claiming it should be perked.

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« Reply #17 on: May 22, 2001, 03:09:00 PM »
tell me getlemans , WHAt a hell you gona doing with the milions of perk points ??? perk planes are rare to see in MA so perk them all and give some early planes for free

lets lose of the bilions of unused perk points  

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« Reply #18 on: May 22, 2001, 04:34:00 PM »
I'm simply waiting for a plane which will IMO worth spending my perks on. Tempest, while a cool plane, simply does not attract me.

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tell me getlemans , WHAt a hell you gona doing with the milions of perk points ??? perk planes are rare to see in MA so perk them all and give some early planes for free

lets lose of the bilions of unused perk points  


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« Reply #19 on: May 22, 2001, 04:42:00 PM »
Minus, that's exactly what I want to see!

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« Reply #20 on: May 22, 2001, 05:05:00 PM »
Funked and Minus, I think you'll get more support for that in 3 or 4 versions with a wider selection on both perked and non-perked sides.

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« Reply #21 on: May 22, 2001, 06:45:00 PM »
I'd give up all my perkpoints if they did put in an early planeset and perk all above say 1942.if everytour it was reset i dont think it would bother me that much.Obviously the perk cost would have to be low all round if we only get a month to collect the points.

But then again this wouldnt stop too many top players from collecting 1000s of points again, as i would imagine they like to fly rarer mounts for the challenge anyhow.

its a tricky thing to guess at this perk thing isnt it  

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« Reply #22 on: May 23, 2001, 12:13:00 PM »
I think (and its only my opinion) that perking the F4 was a good move. Before that there were those monsters everywhere! In the last unperked tour I was killed mostly by this type of airplane and this infestation of F4s I think that spoiled the fun of the play. As I say its my opinion and if you disagree then do so at your discretion...  
And about the La7: Well we can see a lot of those also these days and their drivers rely on HOs a much (acording to my personal experience) but at the other hand I dont really think that its necessary to perk them. Because If you do so then you will have to perk another plane and then another (cycle repeats itself)...

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« Reply #23 on: May 23, 2001, 03:55:00 PM »
If someone tries to HO you in La-7 - it is likely to be someone who isn't very experienced with it.
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« Reply #24 on: May 23, 2001, 04:06:00 PM »
Hmm... But then there is a lot of those guys because the HOs with La7s are happening quite too often... I don't like HO encounters and I try to avoid them as much as possible but with La7 drivers you avoid one HO hoping for some "real" dogfight only to realize that the other guy extends beyond my reach and then he turns back for another HO... Well its kinda boring for me...

 

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« Reply #25 on: May 23, 2001, 05:30:00 PM »
I agree it does happen MadBirdCZ.

But catch me online in my La-7, and I'll give you a fight without a single HO involved.  
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« Reply #26 on: May 29, 2001, 02:07:00 PM »
Hmmm... as a fairly dedicated La7 driver using it for HOs seems rather silly IMHO.  Guns only work at close range, and with this planes climb, low level speed and good intial turn rate anyone should be able to use it to much better effect...

BTW - I have tried the occasional "desperation HO" but it always seems to result in mutually assured destruction.

Ely

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« Reply #27 on: May 29, 2001, 02:25:00 PM »
Perk this!

Create plane factories so we can blow the crapola out of em and no one can fly those perkie planes.

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« Reply #28 on: May 29, 2001, 07:23:00 PM »
Unleash the C-Hog!

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« Reply #29 on: May 30, 2001, 12:22:00 PM »
Still think there is a descrepancy between tempest 70pts; F4u-1c 8pts and the La-7 with no points.  Is the tempest really 8 times better than the C-hog; don't think so.  Is the La-7 really significantly worse than the C-hog or tempest in performance?  Some adjustment is necessary.