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Offline AWwrgwy

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Re: Kamikaze
« Reply #15 on: September 18, 2009, 03:27:39 PM »
Special Events Dosent give you point nor does it subtract points for maneuvers. There would be no penalty for kamikaze attacks in special events. and if it does piss people off they die and could'nt fly again for the remainder of fso then maybe the could get a 2nd life or somthing, but i dout it. Also just knowing you scored major damage from your kamakaze attack would perk those pilots up.

I was thinking along the lines of "criteria for victory" where a kamakazi would be a negative.


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Re: Kamikaze
« Reply #16 on: September 18, 2009, 03:41:26 PM »
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I was thinking along the lines of "criteria for victory" where a kamikaze would be a negative.


I see what your getting at AWwrgwy. But you would also have to factor in the number of damage that pilot did on an nme ship when he did a kamikaze to how many kamikaze's were shot down or missed the target. The pilots who failed and miss the target the country receives a reduction in the score, those who did hit the ship, their damage assessment would count 1/2 of total score of say a dive bomber who hit the same number of targets as the kamikaze.

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Re: Kamikaze
« Reply #17 on: September 18, 2009, 03:42:37 PM »
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Re: Kamikaze
« Reply #18 on: September 18, 2009, 05:41:26 PM »
man i was gonna participate in an fso, changed my mind if i wanna hear people complaining about points i'll stay in the regular arenas.

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Re: Kamikaze
« Reply #19 on: September 18, 2009, 05:49:30 PM »
From a 2 monther that doesn't even fly in FSO?

Special Events Doesn't give you point nor does it subtract points for maneuvers. There would be no penalty for kamikaze attacks in special events. and if it does piss people off they die and couldn't fly again for the remainder of fso then maybe the could get a 2nd life or something, but i doubt it. Also just knowing you scored major damage from your kamikaze attack would perk those pilots up.
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Re: Kamikaze
« Reply #20 on: September 18, 2009, 07:07:46 PM »
what?

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Re: Kamikaze
« Reply #21 on: September 18, 2009, 07:37:26 PM »
No, I'm asking, that's all.  Current FSO rules have may not regard lands or deaths, but amongst squads, it plays a much larger role.  Something to hold in high regard by most. 

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Re: Kamikaze
« Reply #22 on: September 18, 2009, 11:11:19 PM »
ah ok

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Re: Kamikaze
« Reply #23 on: September 19, 2009, 12:14:31 AM »
man i was gonna participate in an fso, changed my mind if i wanna hear people complaining about points i'll stay in the regular arenas.

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Not so much "points" as "objectives", I guess.

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Re: Kamikaze
« Reply #24 on: September 19, 2009, 02:32:26 AM »
Not so much "points" as "objectives", I guess.

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So now the point is to win the objective.  call it whatever you want, still whining about points/objectives.

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Re: Kamikaze
« Reply #25 on: September 19, 2009, 07:19:11 AM »
Special Events Doesn't give you point nor does it subtract points for maneuvers. There would be no penalty for kamikaze attacks in special events. and if it does piss people off they die and couldn't fly again for the remainder of fso then maybe the could get a 2nd life or something, but i doubt it. Also just knowing you scored major damage from your kamikaze attack would perk those pilots up.

man i was gonna participate in an fso, changed my mind if i wanna hear people complaining about points i'll stay in the regular arenas.

So now the point is to win the objective.  call it whatever you want, still whining about points/objectives.

dont think you're getting it. events have criteria for victory, usually points based (so many per bomber destroyed, so many for ground targets destroyed etc.) individual player scores and furballer/landgrabber arguments are irrelevant here.
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Re: Kamikaze
« Reply #26 on: September 19, 2009, 10:53:16 AM »
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Re: Kamikaze
« Reply #27 on: September 19, 2009, 02:04:36 PM »
If implemented in a scenario it should come at so great a scoring penalty as to make it an option that should not be exercised.

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Special Events Doesn't give you point nor does it subtract points for maneuvers. There would be no penalty for kamikaze attacks in special events. and if it does piss people off they die and couldn't fly again for the remainder of fso then maybe the could get a 2nd life or something, but i doubt it. Also just knowing you scored major damage from your kamikaze attack would perk those pilots up.

I see what your getting at AWwrgwy. But you would also have to factor in the number of damage that pilot did on an nme ship when he did a kamikaze to how many kamikaze's were shot down or missed the target. The pilots who failed and miss the target the country receives a reduction in the score, those who did hit the ship, their damage assessment would count 1/2 of total score of say a dive bomber who hit the same number of targets as the kamikaze.

my bad I thought some were whining (not necessarily the one's quoted) about scoring or the affect on scoring
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Re: Kamikaze
« Reply #28 on: September 23, 2009, 12:41:55 PM »
With statistics aside, the point is that having Kamikaze in special events will change game play and add more historical value to the game. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5slCTLrFHI
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Re: Kamikaze
« Reply #29 on: September 23, 2009, 01:35:11 PM »
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having Kamikaze in special events will change game play...

This part is true.

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...and add more historical value to the game.

This is NOT.

All you'll end up with the same sort of bomb-and-bail suicide Lancstuka mentality that gets so many complaints in the Mains. Magnify that by now their suicide planes actually cause damage. Part of the point of Special Events is that you're TRYING to survive to land again. Kamikazes have NO PLACE WHAT...SO...EVER.

And if you want to go uselessly ram yourself into a target go right ahead. No one is stopping you.
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