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Offline Baumer

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HTC tricked me!.........
« on: September 19, 2009, 11:23:32 PM »
And now my head hurts! I love the new PT Boat but, I HATE trig!  :mad:  If any of you squeakers, ever need a reason to study trigonometry look at the torpedo solution problem below. Then be thankful you have a calculator.



This is from the book; "Navigation and Nautical Astronomy" by CDR. Benjamin Dutton Ninth Edition, 1948 (used at the Naval Academy to teach navigation). This is how they figured out how to get into position to fire torpedoes. Imagine trying to do this on a PT boat with a slide-rule and pencil! If you do all the math that's described with this problem, it actually can tell you all position information (like where to intercept the target, and time required to get there) needed for a torpedo solution. The US subs and ships had TDC's but the PT's had to do this with good old pencil and paper. Time for another drink, <S>

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Re: HTC tricked me!.........
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2009, 11:35:58 PM »
 :D

I use pencil and prayper.
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Re: HTC tricked me!.........
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2009, 11:37:25 PM »
You want realism?

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Re: HTC tricked me!.........
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2009, 12:34:07 AM »
Makes me wonder what torpedo bombers had to use... :D
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Re: HTC tricked me!.........
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2009, 01:03:51 AM »
Doesn't look a whole lot different for the basic navigation



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But the actual torpedo sight looked like this;



This image is from the B-25 manual, and it states that it's the torpedo director from a TBM.
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Re: HTC tricked me!.........
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2009, 01:30:07 AM »
Oooh! Can we have a that for the TBM, HTC? PLEEEEEEEASE?  :pray

Ok, I don't fly torpedo runs much anyway, but I might be more inclined if we had the hardware. :D
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Re: HTC tricked me!.........
« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2009, 05:03:19 AM »
Notice the last diagram has a B25 silhouette on it. Now go into the game, up a B25, and look on the instrument panel just behind the yoke, down to the right a bit. See the torpedo indicator lights? Yeah.....wheres my torpedo for my B25s!
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Re: HTC tricked me!.........
« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2009, 06:49:47 AM »
nice charts Baumer
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Re: HTC tricked me!.........
« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2009, 10:28:06 AM »
Notice the last diagram has a B25 silhouette on it. Now go into the game, up a B25, and look on the instrument panel just behind the yoke, down to the right a bit. See the torpedo indicator lights? Yeah.....wheres my torpedo for my B25s!

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Re: HTC tricked me!.........
« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2009, 10:50:35 AM »
lol too much math
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Re: HTC tricked me!.........
« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2009, 10:57:10 AM »
Hmmm..... I always enjoyed trig. It comes in real handy too. :aok
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Re: HTC tricked me!.........
« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2009, 11:06:37 AM »
God i have to take trig in 12th grade.
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Re: HTC tricked me!.........
« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2009, 11:10:25 AM »
Cool stuff Baumer. :)
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Re: HTC tricked me!.........
« Reply #13 on: September 20, 2009, 02:16:23 PM »
God i have to take trig in 12th grade.

You won't get into anything detailed like this. Memorize the side lengths used in sine, cosine, and tangent calculations and you will probably be fine. Helped me to remember that "things don't make sense," i.e. secant is the reciprocal of cosine and cosecant is the inverse of sine. :D

That is, unless I forgot already. :rofl
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Re: HTC tricked me!.........
« Reply #14 on: September 20, 2009, 02:25:16 PM »
Makes me wonder what torpedo bombers had to use... :D

They used a torp sight, and prayer. The japs finally got so pissed they came up with a piloted version of the V1.
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