P-39Q-Some information and tricks with it.

[Nemisis]

OK, does anyone have approach alt, fight tactics, and exit, and all that crap down to a science? If so, could they post everything they found usefull, so I can copy/paste, and put it on a word document?

[CAP1]

OK, does anyone have approach alt, fight tactics, and exit, and all that crap down to a science? If so, could they post everything they found usefull, so I can copy/paste, and put it on a word document?

my exit is usually in a parachute, fishing for my reeses on the way down to bribe the mean cartoon troops with. 

[Nemisis]

my exit is usually in a parachute, fishing for my reeses on the way down to bribe the mean cartoon troops with. 

hehehe, discovered my secret did you.

[Boozeman]

actually, i out turned a p38j in one. i;'ve flown against soulss in the past i think... and he has out turned my 38 o doom.

I do not think thats a general trend. Once the P-38 can drop its flaps, it will wipe the floor with the 39 in a turning contest.   

[1pLUs44]

OK, does anyone have approach alt, fight tactics, and exit, and all that crap down to a science? If so, could they post everything they found usefull, so I can copy/paste, and put it on a word document?

Okay, fly up to 10k (usually above the fight) dive down, 2 or 3 times, and never get below 8. If someone gets behind you, unless it's something with slower aileron movement, (P-38 for example, but even then, the pilot may be very good, so it might not help), but you can try a standard reverse. If not, then DIVE for the deck, and try the reverse with a lot of E.

[Nemisis]

OK, thanks. Sounds like a good bird as long as you don't pull any stupid crap.

[CAP1]

OK, thanks. Sounds like a good bird as long as you don't pull any stupid crap.

doesn't that pretty much cover every plane in the set? 

[Fencer51]

There are 24 P-39Q slots available in the next scenario.  Come fly it in historical situations. 

[Squire]

"- Spits
- F4Us
- F6Fs
- P-38s
- Ki84s
- N1Ks"

Will enagage any of those in a P-39Q, its competative if flown to its strengths.

[CAP1]

"- Spits
- F4Us
- F6Fs
- P-38s
- Ki84s
- N1Ks"

Will enagage any of those in a P-39Q, its competative if flown to its strengths.

again, that is generally any aircraft in our set. 

[Boozeman]

"- Spits
- F4Us
- F6Fs
- P-38s
- Ki84s
- N1Ks"

Will enagage any of those in a P-39Q, its competative if flown to its strengths.

I dont see that the P39 has any exploitable strength against those planes. They will outdo the 39 in anything.
Well, against a Spit1/5 you can run... a Ki84 or Niki you will outdive if altitude permits it... but no chances if you engage in an offensive manner.

Of course, this is for a co-E situation, with similar pilot skill. I think that is what the OP has asked for.   

[CAP1]

I dont see that the P39 has any exploitable strength against those planes. They will outdo the 39 in anything.
Well, against a Spit1/5 you can run... a Ki84 or Niki you will outdive if altitude permits it... but no chances if you engage in an offensive manner.

Of course, this is for a co-E situation, with similar pilot skill. I think that is what the OP has asked for.   

but..you forget sir.......none of us here really flys our aircraft as they were intended.


soulss is much better in the 39 than he thinks he is. i've seen him in it. i've seen others too..........

me....i used it, and tried rich's vertical attacks on gv's last night. it worked quite well.

[Squire]

Cant manuever against any of them? can just run??? well, that has not been my experience in it, the Spit XVI is a bear close in, as we all know, the rest? no problem. I certainly see no big threat from a Ki-84 or a N1K2, you should stand a decent chance vs them in a "even" fight, and im nowhwere near as good as some others in the P-39.

Its not junk just because it isnt a P-47N or a Dora.

[BnZs]

It is a statement of fact that the P-39 does not have any advantages over these planes, except perhaps the fact that it can take a heavy punch and keep on flying. Your statement would be more accurate if you said the P-39 is maneuverable enough to take advantage of mistakes by the pilots of these bird in close dogfighting.

Now if the P-39 were fast enough to disengage from the gaggles of uber-turners *and* run down some of the stuff it *does* outmaneuver fairly easily (Your Jugs, your Ponies, your 190s and Typhs, etc), things would be alot better. P-63 anyone?

Cant manuever against any of them? can just run??? well, that has not been my experience in it, the Spit XVI is a bear close in, as we all know, the rest? no problem. I certainly see no big threat from a Ki-84 or a N1K2, you should stand a decent chance vs them in a "even" fight, and im nowhwere near as good as some others in the P-39.

Its not junk just because it isnt a P-47N or a Dora.

[Squire]

"is maneuverable enough to take advantage of mistakes by the pilots of these bird in close dogfighting."

Isnt thats what they all do it win? Can the P-39 do that, yes, or no?

Its not correct that it has no attributes that are better than some fighters on that list. It can out dive some, out roll some, and has a lower wing loading than some. Its manueverbility in certain speed regimes is better than some. The P-39Q has a decent blend of attributes that make it a competative fighter in LWA. Not uber, not the best, competative.  

Wing loading list at 50 fuel, clean, best to worst:

Spit XVI: 30.15 ft lbs
P-39Q: 33.35 ft lbs
Ki-84: 33.85 ft lbs
N1K2: 34.23 ft lbs
F6F: 35.13 ft lbs
F4U-1D: 36.51 ft lbs
P-38J: 50.37 ft lbs

Thats just one attribute, hardly the worst. Im not going to argue flaps and corner speeds, im simply pointing out that its a false statement to say it has no advanatages over any of the others.