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Offline BBGunn

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« on: May 23, 2001, 05:54:00 PM »
I would like to see a trial run with rotating plane sets.  So maybe one day a week could be plane set day.  So we could fly 109-4's against spit5's and 202's. Something like that would be fun and probably fairer for average pilots.  Anyone else favor experimenting with rotating plane sets on a limited basis?

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« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2001, 06:04:00 PM »
I welcome anything like this, that gives more variety in matchups.

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« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2001, 08:13:00 PM »
Neat idea!  Only thing, more of the older stuff is needed!
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« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2001, 08:56:00 PM »
I agree.  Especially if we get early-war aircraft.  I don't care if the perk system makes it more difficult to fly certain aircraft, I don't want to fly a Wildcat against an ME-262...if either of these aircraft show up to AH.  Maybe the first week or two each month aircraft appear in their order of appearance during the war so that by the end of the 2nd week, all aircraft are then available.  I'm not going to stand by that suggestion, it's just something that came to me and I'm sure there are many, many better.  Point being, I agree.


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« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2001, 11:48:00 PM »
Hey , fly what ya want.  I hop in the 202 all the time.  Nothing like shooting someone down in an inferior plane.  Yes you get killed alot, but hey, i get killed alot anyway.  Fly em if ya got em.

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« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2001, 02:06:00 AM »
Yes... anything to make some Early War fights possible.. at least sometimes!!!


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« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2001, 05:22:00 AM »
I dont like this idea, the reason for that is that i usually have only around 6 hours/week flying time atm. And when i lock on i want to fly my beloved D9, and not one of those nice little early war planes.

If anything is this direction will be made we could do some rotating perk systems.

i.e. in the 1939-41 week all planes from 1942-43 cost around 10 perks, adn the 44-45 birds cost around 20 points.
In the 1942-43 week all 44-45 around 10 perks and in the 1944-45 week everything execpt the normaly perk planes cost nothing.

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« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2001, 06:28:00 AM »
No Thanks!

We did the RPS thing in WB's and it sucked. It caused the most squeaking and complaining among the community, bar none.

Just say NO to a RPS!

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« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2001, 07:31:00 AM »
LoL, yeah it sure is fun to see filadawg tooling along in an 202, especially when tooling along in an arado and he decides to take chase, LOL.  I don't even bother to jettison my eggs to evade!  

BTW, great flying last night fila, was fun.
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« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2001, 08:51:00 AM »
Hey bodhi,

I did close to d1.2 and was getting my lasso out and opening the cockpit. While i was unbuckling my belts and standing up to throw lasso, i looked up and you were d2.5 and a goose passed me.  My 202 needs an engine upgrade is all .   Was fun anyways.

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« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2001, 09:28:00 AM »
I agree! I agree! I agree! I'd like to try rolling plane set for one day a week! Especially if we'll get early war planes. It'd be wonderful to fly Hurricanes, gladiators and CR42 in Aces High. This is an awesome simulation but too much late-war oriented. One day devoted to early war planes would add a lot of variety.
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« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2001, 12:11:00 PM »
Naudet, point taken.  However, once AH evolves to include early-war aircraft, there may be players who only get so many hours per week to play as well and maybe their favorite is a P-40 or Wildcat and those players (especially if sub-par like me) and run into D9s, Nikkis, Chogs and Spit 9's, those who prefer the P-40 or some such will be forced to fly something else if they want to have any time or success in the air and in combat.  Heck, my favorite is the P-51B but I'm finding myself flying the P-51D more and more just for the fact of the two extra guns which help my success and survivability.  I have to be sure to pump enough led into my opponent before that spit or nikki can turn his guns onto me.

I do think one week out of the month for a rolling plane set isn't so bad.  It would make some of us happy and you others still have 3/4s of the month to fly the "ubber" planes (whatever "ubber" means) to increase your scores k/d ratios.

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« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2001, 03:49:00 PM »
Rolling plane sets, historical arenas, and elaborate scenarios can be fun, and WarBirds does 'em all along with its main arena.

But somehow, once RPS began, the WB main arena dwindled and virtually died even though many complained about each stage of the RPS, some planes being too dominant at one stage (e.g. 109 early), and other planes being too dominant at another stage (262 late.

I much favor the free-for-all fly-whatever-you-want aspect of the present AH arena.  Sometimes it's fun to fly the latest hotrod, and sometimes it's fun to see what you can do with the 202.

However, RPS theoretically would negate the need for perk planes since they would only be available late in the war with other latest foes.

Rolling plane set or not, AH can set another milestone if it is the first WWII simulator to offer the B-29.  That and the 262 would truly complete the WWII aircraft spectrum.

Hopefully common sense would prevail and AH participants would strike a reasonable balance of plane types and not just generate B-29 and CHOG raids to level the entire arena. If restraint is not exercised, a B-29 could be perked, maybe even severely, but at least we could experience some now and then.  

If AH ever does try an RPS (along with the present main arena), I hope it will be only after every other aspect of AH is honed to  perfection. RPS takes a lot of effort, and AH's excellent staff can give us many more thrills in the main arena before getting bogged down in RPS details.  

 

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« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2001, 04:06:00 PM »
late war /early war ....please one or the other. with both we just get confusing and badly matched planesets.

but if we had 1 day a week as pre 1941-2 id have no complaints.Just if it is introduced dont just name the day and turn off all our favourites.Do a release with say a selection of these:

hurricane
he111/do17
P51 with alyson engine for p51 fans
spit I with carbs not injection
brewster buffulo
me109e/me110/ju87
gloster gladiator
beaufighter
macchi mc.200 saetta
<insert whatever plane americans want>  

but please dontput them in 1 at a time   they will be ignored by those majority who fly whatever they can win in.

The way i see it AH 'seems' to be going late war so id suggest we ask for the later models until they flesh out too much then switch to early war later(or open another arena).

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« Reply #14 on: May 25, 2001, 12:01:00 AM »

The B29 will be an important milestone, but we have enough aircraft to counter the Superbuff that the B29 will just be another buff like the B17 or the lanc.

My Opinion:

Bring the B29, but dont expect it to be so great. 190D9, Ta152, N1K, and most other late a/c will be prime killers of B29s. The only thing that will save the B29 will be altitude.  
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