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Offline Vinkman

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Re: P-38 kill ratio...out of whack.
« Reply #90 on: September 25, 2009, 01:35:41 PM »
Just dug through my folder, here's a brief film of me being outnumbered when my wingman went down:

http://www.mediafire.com/?wzmyjw4ltuz

I died but it shows that the 38 can be handled down low and slow for such a big aircraft.

Thanks Talon  :aok
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Re: P-38 kill ratio...out of whack.
« Reply #91 on: September 25, 2009, 01:36:48 PM »
In a closely matched vertical fight that "hammerhead" can be all the difference in the world, and if perfected will matter immensley there-bye possibly making dual throttle control a GREAT advantage  IMO  :aok

Shek...Can you post some flims of you performing the perfected subject manuever? :D
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Re: P-38 kill ratio...out of whack.
« Reply #92 on: September 25, 2009, 01:37:51 PM »
Cap1 you seriously think you'll lose E during the rotation on a hammerhead or while stopping a spin?   :rofl

Did you think you have to pick throttle or rudder instead of using both together?   :huh

You tried this once and it didn't work for you?   :cry



Common knowledge among SAPP members that dual throttle is simply more to mess with while fighting. The advantage is so minimal as to be null. It can even be detrimental to your survival.
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Re: P-38 kill ratio...out of whack.
« Reply #93 on: September 25, 2009, 01:41:20 PM »
Cap1 you seriously think you'll lose E during the rotation on a hammerhead or while stopping a spin?   :rofl

Did you think you have to pick throttle or rudder instead of using both together?   :huh

You tried this once and it didn't work for you?   :cry



no, i had it mapped on my throttle, and tried it for a month or so.

i found i could get over much faster using rudder alone, and keeping a little more speed. also, the prop blast helps increase their effectiveness.

 i tried both together, i tried them individually, only to find that the old proven way seems to work best..if you've done it successfully, i'd appreciate seeing a film of it though, and how to do it.  :aok
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Re: P-38 kill ratio...out of whack.
« Reply #94 on: September 25, 2009, 01:42:40 PM »
Vinkman you can map select engine1, select engine2, and select all engines to your stick or throttle if you want the effect of twin throttles. It's not as efficient but it will let you play with the P-38 hammerhead and stall recovery.

Great tip. I'll check it out.

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One and the same. I used to fly AW back in '95 for about a year then had to give it up. Just got discovered AH in April or may I think. This is a huge improvement. What was your handle in the AW days?
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Re: P-38 kill ratio...out of whack.
« Reply #95 on: September 25, 2009, 01:44:00 PM »
Pulling vertical is valid for experts who know when to do it. But you wouldn't agree that it's usually one of the first moves a rookie tries because he is unaware of his potential to be a slow moving sitting duck at the top of a half of the loop?

no. most rookies will do one of two things.

they;ll roll, and pull VERY hard in a flat turn to avoid ya, or they'll go down....somehow.....either just pushing the nose over, or split-s'ing.

 i've learned(the hard way) that if the guy i've been working on, goes up, he's either roping me and waiting for me to stall, or he's roping me for his wingie to kill.

 i do understand where you're coming from though.
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Re: P-38 kill ratio...out of whack.
« Reply #96 on: September 25, 2009, 01:47:34 PM »
i've learned(the hard way) that if the guy i've been working on, goes up, he's either roping me and waiting for me to stall, or he's roping me for his wingie to kill.

 

Now this is the truest statement in this whole post :aok
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Re: P-38 kill ratio...out of whack.
« Reply #97 on: September 25, 2009, 01:49:59 PM »
The answer to the disparity in kill ratios is to kill more 38's! I'll kpee my eyes open.    ;)
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Re: P-38 kill ratio...out of whack.
« Reply #98 on: September 25, 2009, 01:50:07 PM »
Sometimes showing a noob move can throw the other fella a curve. He'll think your new and relax his stance a bit. Not suggested for a second move though :)
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Re: P-38 kill ratio...out of whack.
« Reply #99 on: September 25, 2009, 01:51:14 PM »
WOW!  6 pages in ~2 hours.  So the next question is whether or not B-38 drivers are BBS addicts or if the BBS makes you a B-38 addict.
We just have our ways of knowing...

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Re: P-38 kill ratio...out of whack.
« Reply #100 on: September 25, 2009, 01:58:01 PM »
What will folks do when SAPP gets their hands on one of these nuclear blenders? :uhoh
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Re: P-38 kill ratio...out of whack.
« Reply #101 on: September 25, 2009, 02:03:25 PM »
This is currently installed in my 38J

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Re: P-38 kill ratio...out of whack.
« Reply #102 on: September 25, 2009, 02:16:25 PM »
This is currently installed in my 38J

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Re: P-38 kill ratio...out of whack.
« Reply #103 on: September 25, 2009, 02:16:26 PM »
This is currently installed in my 38J

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Re: P-38 kill ratio...out of whack.
« Reply #104 on: September 25, 2009, 02:23:21 PM »
You call that a blender :noid

Mine is gas powered. It fits nicely in my torpedo bay.

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