P-38 kill ratio...out of whack.

[Shuffler]

Just on principle I got to point that truth is not determined by a show of hands.

He flies the Mossi...compared to that the 38 IS easy-mode.

Hmm I found the mossie pretty easy personally. As is the A20.
Just checked.. he doesn't fly much does he.

Show of hands is generally folks saying what their experience is. Nothing more... nothing less. Like I said.... he must be lonely on that bench.

[Ack-Ack]

Quite the opposite.  The P-38 is so easy to hit with and is tough enough to take a bit of thumping that when you put people in a brawl while they don't really know what they are doing, it comes out much better.  Yes, Spitfires IX, VIII and XVI will do better as will the N1K2-J, but I can't think of any other fighter that is as easy as the P-38.  I am no expert sim-pilot like some here, but the P-38 has what is needed for beginners.  I know P-38 drivers in this game like to talk themselves up as the best of the best doing well in a dog, but it just ain't so.

You're doing well in the next best thing to a Spitfire.

I'm sorry but a new pilot or even an average or veteran pilot that doesn't know how to use the flaps, rudders and throttle properly in conjunction with each other will not be very successful in the Lightning or doesn't know the limitations/weaknesses or strengths of the P-38 will not be all that successful and will find it tough to fly the P-38.  

The P-38 is not a plane for new or inexperienced players that are hoping to be competitive at the start, especially if they angles fight.  The only area in which a new or inexperienced player that is starting to fly the P-38 may enjoy some amount of success is if they fly the Lightning using Energy fighting tactics like Boom and Zoom where they don't have to worry about turning with the bandit.  If a new or inexperienced player hopping in a P-38 tries to turn fight with a Spitfire without a good grasp how fly a P-38 in an angles fight situation, the P-38 driver won't last very long.

I've always said that the P-38 is a plane for those that are at least at the medium skill level or greater to be able to take full advantage of what the Lightning is capable of.


ack-ack

[saantana]

Most pee 38 drivers fly in pairs.
Was this mentioned in this thread? Sorry I didn't want to read all of it.
Why did the original author use so many scientific terms on a simple tactic that can just be called the rope? Don't follow. This holds true for ANY plane with a higher E state.

[CAP1]

Interesting take on the 38..... the bench your sitting on is lonely isn't it.

What do you fly? I don't ever remember seeing you in the arena.

a lazyboy. 

[saantana]

I'm sorry but a new pilot or even an average or veteran pilot that doesn't know how to use the flaps, rudders and throttle properly in conjunction with each other will not be very successful in the Lightning or doesn't know the limitations/weaknesses or strengths of the P-38 will not be all that successful and will find it tough to fly the P-38.  

The P-38 is not a plane for new or inexperienced players that are hoping to be competitive at the start, especially if they angles fight.  The only area in which a new or inexperienced player that is starting to fly the P-38 may enjoy some amount of success is if they fly the Lightning using Energy fighting tactics like Boom and Zoom where they don't have to worry about turning with the bandit.  If a new or inexperienced player hopping in a P-38 tries to turn fight with a Spitfire without a good grasp how fly a P-38 in an angles fight situation, the P-38 driver won't last very long.

I've always said that the P-38 is a plane for those that are at least at the medium skill level or greater to be able to take full advantage of what the Lightning is capable of.


ack-ack

Did you mean know how to press ten buttons on the joy/throttle on their desk at precisely the right time and order?  

[CAP1]

Did you mean know how to press ten buttons on the joy/throttle on their desk at precisely the right time and order?  

actually, my flaps are on a single button. 

[Rino]

    So much knowledge for such little experience 

[Ack-Ack]

Did you mean know how to press ten buttons on the joy/throttle on their desk at precisely the right time and order?  

When to deploy or retract flaps, when to give more throttle or decrease throttle so you don't ever speed in a nose low turn, how to use your rudders in conjuction with your flaps to turn tighter.  How to dive at high speeds, riding the edge of compressability while keeping control of the Lightning.  Now, if you think you can fly the P-38 as well as any experienced Lightning driver in the game, I will be more than willing to show you how incorrect you are.  We can do a series of 1v1 P-38 fights and I will guarantee that you will not survive past the 2nd turn after the merge.

I am not saying it's a hard plane to fly but it's not an easy plane either for someone that is new or inexperienced or even for a veteran player that doesn't know how to 'fly' the Lightning.


ack-ack

[texastc316]

Cheater

[Yeager]

There is a reason the Germans called them "Forked-Tailed Devil"

The Werchmant guys referred to them as FTD cause of teh bombas.  Not the Luftwafffe guys.  I have a question on the P38 in AH:

1) Has it undergone a FM makeover since it was first introduced?  I used to fly it back in the early days and that thought it pretty much sucked.  Then I took some time off around 2005 and when I came back late 2007..maybe early 08, the damned thing flew like a dream.  I know I didnt get any better.....thought it was odd.

The only reason I ask is that I would like the 51s to get a similar rewrite if the 38 did in fact get one.

[Yeager]

Most pee 38 drivers fly in pairs.

Maybe they do in LW...just cause there are so many of them.  In MW they tend to fly alone because nobody likes them 

[MjTalon]

Most pee 38 drivers fly in pairs.
Was this mentioned in this thread? Sorry I didn't want to read all of it.
Why did the original author use so many scientific terms on a simple tactic that can just be called the rope? Don't follow. This holds true for ANY plane with a higher E state.

The 82nd does. We train in Elements and working in pairs. Two 38s that are experienced will cause havok for a bandit or several.

[CAP1]

Maybe they do in LW...just cause there are so many of them.  In MW they tend to fly alone because nobody likes them 

and if ya watch the 200 text in mw, you'll see i have much more than my share of P.A.H.'s. 

[Grape]

Wingmen, or bait. What ever works for me.

[CAP1]

Wingmen, or bait. What ever works for me.

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