Tricks for bleeding 'e' at the top of a rolling scissors

[Steve]

..... you want to maintain your Speed but reduce your forward motion..........

Absolutely.   Keep this simple mantra in mind:  Displace, so you don't have to replace.

Displace: do something to increase the distance you travel, whether by increasing the radius of your rolling scissor or by going up more.... etc
so you don't have to replace: Energy.

In a fight where you are 1v1 and going to be that way for some time, you could get away with scrubbing E by one of several methods if you can make your shot count on the overshoot. If you miss your shot opportunity, you can quickly become very disadvantaged. If there are multiple bad guys, this is even more problematic.

[Guppy35]

When pulling a rolling scissors, what tricks do you guys/gals, used to bleed e at the top and cause an overshoot. I've tried slipping the rudder but that doesn't appear to bleed enough.

I just level out and I'm soon bleeding....er.... that is what you were asking right?  Tricks for bleeding?

[mechanic]

lol


hey Ardy, here is a K4 sortie from furball lake from about a month ago or so (you're in the background ). I was rusty and just wanted a warmup but things got quite fun.

http://www.freeroleentertainment.com/k4_dweebery.ahf


Lots of little speed management and angles descisions going on, some good 1 vs 1 fights with spits n stuff. It might help just to search though it to get some ideas.

S!
batfink

[JunkyII]

lol


hey Ardy, here is a K4 sortie from furball lake from about a month ago or so (you're in the background ). I was rusty and just wanted a warmup but things got quite fun.

http://www.freeroleentertainment.com/k4_dweebery.ahf


Lots of little speed management and angles descisions going on, some good 1 vs 1 fights with spits n stuff. It might help just to search though it to get some ideas.

S!
batfink

bat why is the film saved as k4 dweebery? you gots a problem wit k4s juuuuuu  ?

[mechanic]

It's a dweeb ride through and through suh, but then i class the mossy as a dweeb ride too!  

One of the best planes in the game imo, the K4 is.

[JunkyII]

It's a dweeb ride through and through suh, but then i class the mossy as a dweeb ride too!  

One of the best planes in the game imo, the K4 is.

Mossy > K4 

[BaldEagl]

Well this isn't a rolling scisscors.  In fact I'm not sure it's applicable here but this is a move I've used effectively for years:  It's a double reverse split s or maybe more appropriately a double half Immel.

As long as you have enough E to start with pull up into an Immelman.  At the top roll upright and pull into a second Immel.  Most pilots lose you as you reverse into the second Immel.  If they don't they pull the nose striaght up and hang on the prop.  You'll be very very slow over the top of the second Immel and might have to use flaps to get over but your reverse will be very tight.  If you're lucky you'll find your prey hanging on his prop ready to flop over below you.  If your not as lucky you'll reverse onto his six.

You'll want an opening E advantage to do this (or possibly co-E with specific plane match-ups).  You'll be dead if you try this at an E disadvantage.

It's a complex variation of the rope a dope and works well with an E advantage against one on multiple opponents letting you pick your target on the downswing.

[Ardy123]

lol


hey Ardy, here is a K4 sortie from furball lake from about a month ago or so (you're in the background ). I was rusty and just wanted a warmup but things got quite fun.

http://www.freeroleentertainment.com/k4_dweebery.ahf


Lots of little speed management and angles descisions going on, some good 1 vs 1 fights with spits n stuff. It might help just to search though it to get some ideas.

S!
batfink

batfink,
you did a very cool out-of-plane manuver in the fight against the nik. It was kinda like a barrel-roll. Cool vid

Ardy

[Plawranc]

Drop throttle, Angle high, Drop flaps and over you go. Then power on and go in for kill.

Straight simple and effective. If you miss youre shot and you have no E, manouvere into a spot in which you can make him overshoot and reverse on him with all the power you have.

I do it that way but Im a spit dweeb so what do I know lol.

[Gabriel]

Ardy,

What you are describing is not rolling scissors.

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Going to have to keep reading this until something in my mind goes 'click'