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Re: Question about a P-51 maneuver
« Reply #30 on: September 28, 2009, 11:46:33 AM »
Scince when did the P51 get  helocoptor blades?
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Re: Question about a P-51 maneuver
« Reply #31 on: September 28, 2009, 11:53:52 AM »
LMAO

I thought it moved like a helicopter.
I like the show in general because of the animations but the amount of American self love in it is just too much sometimes. I would love to see a clip of an American pilot getting his bellybutton handed to him just for historical accuracy and to make void my claim. However that won't happen because it's an American show.  :rofl

Edit: BTW this is sarcasm. The show reminds me of Rambo.



It's an American show.

Nothing wrong with being proud of being American.
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Re: Question about a P-51 maneuver
« Reply #32 on: September 28, 2009, 12:00:39 PM »
It's an American show.

Nothing wrong with being proud of being American.

I too am proud of Americans. The show would be more interesting if it showed the flip side of the coin IMO, and would be more educational. This is the History Channel you know.

Portraying only US pilots in glory while showing how the perform impossible moves while executing complete ownage over the enemy is a little bit like Rambo.
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Re: Question about a P-51 maneuver
« Reply #33 on: September 28, 2009, 12:04:47 PM »
I too am proud of Americans. The show would be more interesting if it showed the flip side of the coin IMO, and would be more educational. This is the History Channel you know.

Portraying only US pilots in glory while showing how the perform impossible moves while executing complete ownage over the enemy is a little bit like Rambo.

This is the History Channel...... not classroom. We were already talking about how bad the channel is now. It has nothing to do with showing Americans in their glory.
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Re: Question about a P-51 maneuver
« Reply #34 on: September 28, 2009, 12:10:24 PM »
I too am proud of Americans. The show would be more interesting if it showed the flip side of the coin IMO, and would be more educational. This is the History Channel you know.

Portraying only US pilots in glory while showing how the perform impossible moves while executing complete ownage over the enemy is a little bit like Rambo.


you forgot.....HE who wins the war, writes the history! :D

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Re: Question about a P-51 maneuver
« Reply #35 on: September 28, 2009, 12:12:20 PM »
This is the History Channel...... not classroom. We were already talking about how bad the channel is now. It has nothing to do with showing Americans in their glory.

You must be joking. I haven't seem one episode that told the story of someone who wasn't in the USAF. If one exists then you proved me wrong.
The series should be renamed to American Dogfights  :D
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Re: Question about a P-51 maneuver
« Reply #36 on: September 28, 2009, 12:13:29 PM »

you forgot.....HE who wins the war, writes the history! :D

True.
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Re: Question about a P-51 maneuver
« Reply #37 on: September 28, 2009, 12:23:18 PM »
You must be joking. I haven't seem one episode that told the story of someone who wasn't in the USAF.

So what? It's a show made by Americans to be viewed primarily in the American market. It would make good economic sense to feature Americans predominantly.
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Re: Question about a P-51 maneuver
« Reply #38 on: September 28, 2009, 12:26:27 PM »
You must be joking. I haven't seem one episode that told the story of someone who wasn't in the USAF. If one exists then you proved me wrong.
The series should be renamed to American Dogfights  :D
not only USAF but USNAF and USMAF ,the US airforce is not the only branch of the military that flys in combat.
USNAF=united states navy air force
USMAF=united states marine air force
and there are episodes about their combat flights in DOGFIGHTS.
also heres one of japenese and russian dogfights.
http://www.history.com/video.do?name=dogfights&bcpid=1610704596&bclid=1600116540&bctid=1531249417
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Re: Question about a P-51 maneuver
« Reply #39 on: September 28, 2009, 12:28:40 PM »
Hmm I have seen at least one Israeli ace on there too.

Japan, France, Korean/Russian, and several more.
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Re: Question about a P-51 maneuver
« Reply #40 on: September 28, 2009, 12:37:07 PM »
So what? It's a show made by Americans to be viewed primarily in the American market. It would make good economic sense to feature Americans predominantly.

Well that's debatable. I know that History Channel is available in many countries, but that alone doesn't make your argument void.

I didn't really intend for this to get political, although I can see how it did and how my initial post contributed to that. Sorry guys!

However, I will stick to my guns that the show is a little bit like Rambo  :D
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Re: Question about a P-51 maneuver
« Reply #41 on: September 28, 2009, 12:39:55 PM »
not only USAF but USNAF and USMAF ,the US airforce is not the only branch of the military that flys in combat.
USNAF=united states navy air force
USMAF=united states marine air force
and there are episodes about their combat flights in DOGFIGHTS.
also heres one of japenese and russian dogfights.
http://www.history.com/video.do?name=dogfights&bcpid=1610704596&bclid=1600116540&bctid=1531249417

Great find, I'll watch it after work.
I generalized all of the US Air Force under one USAF. I thought that's a super set of all the branches you mentioned. If it isn't you must pardon my ignorance, I'm not American.
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Re: Question about a P-51 maneuver
« Reply #42 on: September 28, 2009, 12:42:45 PM »
Great find, I'll watch it after work.
I generalized all of the US Air Force under one USAF. I thought that's a super set of all the branches you mentioned. If it isn't you must pardon my ignorance, I'm not American.
just pointing  it out,theres more branches of the us military that fly in combat also :salute
we have whats called air national guard and reserves
the regular army also has combat air forces
but they are not all under the orders of the USAF,total different branches.
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Re: Question about a P-51 maneuver
« Reply #43 on: September 28, 2009, 12:44:31 PM »
Well that's debatable. I know that History Channel is available in many countries, but that alone doesn't make your argument void.

I didn't really intend for this to get political, although I can see how it did and how my initial post contributed to that. Sorry guys!

However, I will stick to my guns that the show is a little bit like Rambo  :D


Noooooooooo! I see your point. I was just saying that it IS an American show. If it slants that way it is understandable.
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Re: Question about a P-51 maneuver
« Reply #44 on: September 28, 2009, 01:00:21 PM »
Only a person interested in air combat like most of us could find Polish biplanes or Chinese monoplanes attempting to put up a fight in the least interesting so I am assuming you want to see German aces or Russian aces and how they went about business. Question is what advertisers would pay for segments under that episode... probably the same ones that buy them now.
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