Updated ENY values for Planes

[thorsim]

The a8 is perhaps the only fighter the 51D out turns.  The pony will out turn a couple of others, under specific circumstances.

hehe ok ...

[Boozeman]

Just FYI

Thor comes from a sim in which 51s easily outturn 109s... 

[thorsim]

not mine ...

Just FYI

Thor comes from a sim in which 51s easily outturn 109s... 

[Steve]

hehe ok ...

For the sake of AHII, this is a fact, Thor.

[thorsim]

i am sure it is, it is just sort of vague on a couple of points ...

that's all ...

no offense

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For the sake of AHII, this is a fact, Thor.

The a8 is perhaps the only fighter the 51D out turns.  The pony will out turn a couple of others, under specific circumstances.

[Wmaker]

The a8 is perhaps the only fighter the 51D out turns.  The pony will out turn a couple of others, under specific circumstances.

This isn't true.

P-51D easily out turns at least 190A-5, 190F-8 and 190D-9 aswell.

[BnZs]

Some planes roll faster as speeds increase , some roll slower as the KPH go up.

That qualifies as 'maneuvering better at speed' .

That falls under the control authority issue I mentioned. Although I could have said "turning" instead to be more clear.

[Steve]

This isn't true.

P-51D easily out turns at least 190A-5, 190F-8 and 190D-9 aswell.

Yes it is true. For instance with no flaps the pony outturns the a5 by a small margin.. not  "easily" at all.
Under full flaps, the A5 outturns the pony. The same is true for the D9
As I said

The pony will out turn a couple of others, under specific circumstances.

This statement is true.

I didn't consider the F8, only because it is rarely flown

[Krusty]

Yes it is true. For instance with no flaps the pony outturns the a5 by a small margin.. not  "easily" at all.
Under full flaps, the A5 outturns the pony. The same is true for the D9

Yes because the 190s turn so well with their 180mph flap deployment speeds...... 


You use flaps in a 190 and you die. You use flaps in a p51 and most times you win. So perhaps not best to drag them into the argument.

[Steve]

Yes because the 190s turn so well with their 180mph flap deployment speeds......  


You use flaps in a 190 and you die. You use flaps in a p51 and most times you win. So perhaps not best to drag them into the argument.

There is no argument. I stated a known fact:

The pony will out turn a couple of others, under specific circumstances.

What's to argue about?

[Banshee7]

You use flaps in a 190 and you die.

For the sake of argument.....Not all the time 

[BnZs]

Krusty has a point, under most circumstances where you can get the flaps in a 190 out, the Pony has already won enough angles that it doesn't make a difference.

[Steve]

Krusty has a point, under most circumstances where you can get the flaps in a 190 out, the Pony has already won enough angles that it doesn't make a difference.

I didn't say anything about a fight between planes. Krusty may have a point but it has nothing to do with what I said:

The pony will out turn a couple of others, under specific circumstances

[Krusty]

Without having read through 15 pages of fluff, I got the impression you were comparing the 2 against each other in a fight (i.e. a 190 fighting a p51).

[Steve]

Without having read through 15 pages of fluff, I got the impression you were comparing the 2 against each other in a fight (i.e. a 190 fighting a p51).

No sir.  Sorry I didn't use a more complete thought.